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Is there a manufacturer making a Home Defense 410 Gauge Shotgun

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by .22M.R.F., Nov 7, 2018.

  1. .22M.R.F.

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    My cousin who is a female and of advance age wants something for home protection and has had a 12 gauge Mossberg that was too heavy for her to handle comfortably. I believe a 410 is agequate for self protection inside a home but have not seen anything advertised for sale fitting this description, any help is appreciated.
     
  2. Corpral_Agarn

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    IDK about "Home defense" specifically, but I am sure someone sells an 18" barrel and tube extensions for a 410.
     
  3. cheygriz

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    I would look around for a 28 ga, or possibly a gas operated 20 ga.. The Remington youth model 11-87 in 20 should be ideal

    Just my opinion, but I consider the .410 a poor choice for home defence.
     
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    Lots of too-heavy things are too ungainly instead. I'd want to look at the 12 ga, might suggest a shorter barrel, a switch to a 5 shot gun, a shorter stock, etc.

    Agree that .410 is not something I'd want to be shooting at determined bad guys, no matter the load, or range.

    If the 12 is a no-go, then step sideways to carbines. A lot of pistol caliber ones are very, very short (due to layout, mag in the grip) and very light.
     
  5. George P

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    An elderly person is not going to practice with a carbine and do drills, etc. A 410, loaded with some of the new defensive 000 buck should do just fine inside the home at close range. OP, you might look for a double barrel, unless she is comfortable working a pump
     
  6. RedlegRick

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    Mossberg makes youth versions of the 500 in .410, including a Defender model.
    Edited to add: The 590 Shockwave is available in .410.
    Can't seem to link with my phone today.
     
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    Why a hard-bucking pump when low recoil gas operated semi-autos are available????
     
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    If OP's cousin is already used to Mossberg, why not continue with such a good recipe. I second the 000 buck load too!
     
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    I thought Mossberg made a .410 pump gun that had a vertical fore-grip "tactical" model.
     
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    Yes, saw one in the classifieds last week.
     
  13. rpenmanparker

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    I don’t see why a full size 410 couldn’t be modified by a gunsmith to suit her perfectly. Do you call it “sawed off” if it is done by a pro? Is it legal?
     
  14. expat_alaska

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    Because a pump is safer than a semi-auto for a newbie. When the chambered round is shot, one needs to reload with a pump. With a semi-auto, all one has to do is pull the trigger until the mag is empty, and with a newbie pulling the trigger it might be all the brain sees. Besides, a .410 pump like the Mossberg has very little recoil.
     
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    I would respectfully disagree that a pump is safer. Quite the contrary, a new shooter needs something simple that doesn't require anything other than pulling the trigger for second and subsequent shots when under stress.
     
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  17. George P

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    18" minimum barrel length and 26" oal
     
  18. rpenmanparker

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    Thanks.
     
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    IMO, it doesn't get much better than this.
     
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    I have two Mossberg 410 pumps. One is a 500 with 24” full choke and the other is the 590 Shockwave with 14” cylinder bore. I have no problems using a load of 5 pellets of 00 or 000 buckshot out of either one for home defense. I reload my own 3” 00 buck shells and my 500 will keep all 5 pellets in a 9” pie pan and 20 yards. That’s plenty good for defense use.
     
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    A shotgun doesn't require any less practice than a carbine. In fact, one could argue that it requires more, due the need to reload more often and work a manual action, if that's what is chosen.
     
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  23. George P

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    Agree, which is why I said a double gun
     
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