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Is there any value in Federal Paper hulls

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Mars5l, Aug 15, 2021.

  1. Mars5l

    Mars5l Member

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    I have bought about a case of Federal Gold Medal 12ga Paper target rounds for sporting clays. My question is, is there any resale value in them to save them and sell back to reloaders? I've kept some from todays session and was wondering if I should continue to save or leave them behind
     
  2. IMtheNRA

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    I can't imagine why someone would want to use paper hulls when plastic hulls are widely available. And, for free.
     
  3. FROGO207

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    The only reason I could think of would be setting up a display using period items or such. I have some old Alcan wads and such to reload them. Still not worth using them up so they sit on the shelf as a curiosity.
     
  4. Hillbillyz

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    Ballistic products is currently selling them 500 for $59.00. There must be a market, and nothing smells like a freshly fired paper shell. It brings back a lot of memories for some of us.
     
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    Mostly as a novelty or nostalgia item for some is where you would see the most interest. They just don’t seem to have enough value otherwise.
     
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  6. Armored farmer

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    Back in the day, we thought the papers shot softer than plastics.
    We would reload them a few times, then they were done.
     
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  7. entropy

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    Shoot one, then hold it up and sniff. It's like crack. Greatest smell in the world!
    For those that reload, or buy the Federal Papers that are still (well, were) available, it's mostly a nostalgia thing. I know every time I smell one, I am 17 again, standing on the 22 yard line, and hoping for that beer bird to fly out of the Trap........it's like a miniature time machine.

    Yup; three loads, and then you'd find pinholes burnt through where the paper meets the base.

    Put a flyer up in the clubhouse; you'll find a buyer at @.05-.06 each.
     
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  8. Random 8

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    Some of the old guys at our club still use them religiously. I'd put up a flyer at your trap club and see if there's any interest. I don't think you'll get enough on the internet to cover shipping above possibly break even.
     
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  9. lordpaxman

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    A little scotch tape and you’ll get three more loadings. We were poor, what can I say? But that was back when AA12S was available.
    I have no problems with paper hulls, but most of mine are gone. Someone locally may want them if they can find components. Good luck.
     
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  10. BigBoreBubba

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    I haven’t shot or seen paper shells in a long time. I didn’t know they were still being loaded by any major company. I thought it was just a boutique thing these days. I used to shoot paper 20ga a lot when I was a kid. Like others have said, I love the smell, and the feel of them as well.
     
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  11. mcb

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    I have some Federal and Fiocchi paper hulls. Still load them from my doubles. Just switch out to a 6-point crimp and load them pretty much with the same component/press as I do my Winchester AA hulls. Nice smell, softens the recoil impulse slightly and just feels good in the hand.

    ETA: Federal. Fiocchie and Rio all still make paper hulls, primarily for the trap, skeet, and Helice competitive shooters.
     
  12. entropy

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    RST loads them also, but they're not cheap, and very low stock currently.
    http://www.rstshells.com/store/m/2-12-Gauge.aspx
    They too have a Helice load, currently out of them.
     
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  13. jaguarxk120

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    Cowboy action shooters use the paper shells with black powder.
    The paper does not burn thru or melt like the plastic shells.
     
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  14. entropy

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    I thought they were more into the full-length brass.
     
  15. jaguarxk120

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    Brass is BIG buck's, paper you can get 4-5 reloads before they burn thru.
     
  16. .38 Special

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    Most of my shotshells are loaded with black. I do use brass on occasion but paper is better in some ways. There is definitely a market for empties, though the OP is unlikely to get rich. If he can't find any local buyers he almost certainly can sell them to someplace like Ballistic Products.
     
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    The best thing about paper hulls is thru don’t gunk up or rust your chamber like cheap plastics do.
     
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    How does a plastic hull gunk up or rust a chamber?

    Throw you paper shells in a bucket of water and get back to me. I like paper but other than the smell and the very minor reduction in felt recoil they are otherwise significantly inferior to plastic hulls in every other measurable way. They don't tolerate water well, or rough handling; they have issue feeding in pump and especially many semi-auto shotguns, and you can't reloaded them as many time as you can plastic.
     
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    Ross Seyfreid used to recommend Federal paper 12 ga hulls as one component of a low pressure loads for damascus barrel shotguns. I've shot them for over 30 years.
     
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    Dang it all now you guys are talking me into finding some paper hulls to experience this magical smell. I think this is exactly how I got a 327 revolver too. I need a new place to hang out on my phone...
     
  21. jaguarxk120

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    The paper shells have wax in the paper, that wax helps to coat the bore and prevent rust.
     
  22. entropy

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::evil:
     
  23. Mars5l

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    I never knew the smell til an outing a few months ago at my local sporting clays. For some reason they had cases of Federal Gold Medal Paper as range ammo to buy. I was quickly enamoured with the smell. I wanted to get more but sources online dried up quickly. They finally came back on federal website but looks like they'll be out soon, price has gone from what it was late spring time. I mainly bought just because of the smell but I did like how I shot with it. Im going to use it sparingly what I bought and order a few extra boxes every pay check.

    Seems like I'll try and save what I shoot it incase someone wants it. It will just goto waste into a trash can if not.
     
  24. tachelberry

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    I would agree with jaguarxk120. I load Federal gold metal metal exclusively for all my black powder needs and do not use plastic because the plastic will melt and foul your bore.
     
  25. Thomasss

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    Papers still come in handy if you have to cut some down for 2.5 inch chamber. People who use them, love them.
     
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