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Is there such a thing as the Glock of 1911s?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ScareyH22A, Jul 20, 2009.

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  1. ScareyH22A

    ScareyH22A Member

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    Is there a brand/model of 1911 that is like a Glock in that it's relatively inexpensive (compared to other 1911s) and reliable? Or do you have to massage whatever 1911 you decided to buy with trick components then shoot a few hundred rounds to see make sure that it'll go bang everytime (sort of a trial and error type of deal)?
     
  2. Oro

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    I think the closest thing to what you are looking for in new factory/production guns would be the Colt 1991/80 Series guns. These will run $600 used/$750 new.


    No. But the thing to understand about the 1911 platform is that it is the "toy box" of American handgunners and has been for decades. There have been a huge number of producers of parts for it, with just about as much variance in quality control. Because of the nature of the design, it can never be made as cheaply as plastic guns. So set aside absolute price comparisons. This price pressure hurts quality control at most manufacturers - foreign made frames, poor MIM parts, etc.

    The reason I choose a Colt 1991 as the most "Glock like" 1911 is that it is well built in the US to critical tolerances and with few MIM parts. Since 2000, they have come equipped with a unique grooved barrel ramp design that removes much of the temperament to variable bullet designs.
     
  3. Mags

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    Yes Springfield GI model. It goes bang every time as long as you don't screw with it and if you are lucky you can find one around 500 bucks new.
     
  4. lanternlad1

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    That's kind of asking "What's the most Ford-like Chevy out there?"

    Get a Glock 36 if you want something Glock-like that shoots .45 and is slim like a 1911. Just my .02.
     
  5. ScareyH22A

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    So you're saying that there are no factory stock 1911 that's reliable?
     
  6. lawboy

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    "Is there such a thing as the Glock of 1911s?"

    Good Lord, I hope not.
     
  7. ScareyH22A

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    Yeah because reliability is such a fad right?
     
  8. Frank Ettin

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    I've seen plenty of Glocks (and H&Ks, SIGs, etc.) sputter and stumble in training. I saw one do so yesterday in a Nevada CCW qualification. And plenty of 1911s are completely reliable -- all of mine are.

    In a 1911, a Springfield Mil Spec (better sights than the GI) would be worth a look.

    And BTW, you should shakedown any new gun with several hundred rounds before putting it to serious use. Any gun can have a problem, and you'd rather have one show up on your new roscoe at the range rather than on the street.
     
  9. Comanche180

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    I shoot a $400 Rock Island Armory basic GI pistol. It is accurate and reliable. It doesn't have any fancy widgets and chrome, it just shoots.
     
  10. earlthegoat2

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    Get a sense of humor ScareyH22A.

    In the meantime get a Colt 1991 Series 80 and you can have your Glock with all its Glockness in a 1911.
     
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    Inexpensive (compared to other 1911s) and reliable? Rock Island Armory MS or Springfield GI. Owned both, love both.
     
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    Rock Island Armory GI moedel, sub 1" at 50 feet possible (5 kneeling shots into 3/4") if thats accurate enough, tactical model has better sights. never had a hangup that was not my own fault, i forgot to crimp, so they didnt feed well:banghead:, once loaded too light (~500 fps) got failure to eject.

    use even half descant ammo and you will never have a problem

    oh yah, i got mine 410 bucks out the door
     
  13. cslinger

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    Glock 1911...........did anybody else hear that distant popping sound? Sounded like the heads of a thousand thousand Glock and 1911purist heads popping. :D
     
  14. ScareyH22A

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    Sorry, I just hate hearing a bunch of numbnut all steel elitists talking trash on function over form. Just for the record, I don't even own a Glock but I do own two HK USPs and I didn't mention them and show favoritism or immaturity.
     
  15. Gryffydd

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    Mine has been extremely reliable and accurate. Paid $599 for it in stainless. You get better sights, a lowered and flared ejection port, and a beveled magazine well compared to the GI model.
     
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    I have a Kimber Custom II I bought used, it's been 100% reliable, eats whatever I feed it, ball, HP, SWC, and is just as boringly reliable as a Glock (I had a G21 previously, but the grip didn't fit me right)

    the finish on the KCII is probably about 80% of new, but the gun locks up like a bank vault and is more accurate than me, and since the previous owner did all the wear-and-tear on the finish, I don't have to "baby" it, no, I don't abuse it, but I don't handle it with kid gloves either, it's a shooter
     
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    Springer Mil-Spec
     
  18. oak1971

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    In answer to the OP, try a Sig P220 Elite with the beaver tail. I have one in Stainless and love it. Tough as nails, goes bang every time, comes with night sites, and best of all, it is not a Glock!
     
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    "Glock of 1911's"?!

    HERESY!!!

    Why on earth would you buy a 1911 that can't shoot non-jacketed ammunition? Or has a magazine that when loaded weigh's almost as much as the gun (unbalanced)? That comes in black, and only black (forget blued steel)? That comes in so many calibers that schizophrenia is the only logical explanation? That has more in common with Tupperware than a pistol?

    It just doesn't make sense! It's like asking for "the Corvette's of Alfa-Romeo", there is no such thing! At least there had better not, I'd hate to see Alfa-Romeo need a bailout.
     
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    Hmmm, maybe a Les Baer or Wilson? (way overpriced for what you get) Still, that's not fair at all, because Baer and Wilson are still quality products; so no, there is no such thing.
     
  21. oak1971

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    Baer's do run forever. And they are a value compared to Wilson and Brown.

    I have yet to have a failure with mine.

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  22. Gryffydd

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    The Sig P220 is a 1911 now!? :what: How did I miss that?
     
  23. DeepSouth

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    Closest thing I know of. It's half plastic, ugly, and comes in a 9mm.

    I couldn't help it.
     
  24. oak1971

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    "The Sig P220 is a 1911 now!? How did I miss that?"
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    With the beaver tail it has a 1911 feel and runs 45 acp. even the mags look the similar. It performs the same function and carries the same amount of rounds. Like a 1911, but better.
     
  25. Gryffydd

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    And Uglier :p ...And with a DA/SA trigger...
    And whatever you may think about its ergonomics, the OP was asking about 1911s, not similar pistols.
     
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