Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

is this an abused colt?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Dimis, Apr 20, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Dimis

    Dimis Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Location:
    Delaware
    i saw this picture on some website and i couldnt really recognize it
    any body know what make and model it is?
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Apr 20, 2009
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    59,082
    Location:
    Eastern KS
    Looks like a chopped GI 1917 to me.

    http://www.pbyrescue.com/weapons/m1917/m1917.htm

    It was a very popular pass-time back in the 50's & 60's to buy them for $20 bucks and make Fitz Special belly guns out of them.

    Note the chopped barrel, hammer, and front of trigger guard missing.

    The friction tape grip wrap is really classic!

    rc
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  3. Dimis

    Dimis Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Location:
    Delaware
    thanks RC how did they reattatch the front sight if they chopped the barrel tho?
     
  4. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    59,082
    Location:
    Eastern KS
    Same exact way Colt did it on SAA's.

    Grind a slot for it and silver-solder it back on.

    rc
     
  5. Dimis

    Dimis Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Location:
    Delaware
    i can only assume they bobbed the hammer too right?
     
  6. Hammerhead6814

    Hammerhead6814 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2009
    Messages:
    701
    That's not abused, just "well-used" :D .
     
  7. jad0110

    jad0110 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,047
    Location:
    Somewhere between the Eastern Block states and Flo
    It does look pretty freakin' mean, doesn't it? Awesome.

    Actually, I've seen this pic on THR before, I think it belongs to a member.
     
  8. Kentucky-roughrider

    Kentucky-roughrider Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    298
    Location:
    western Kentucky
    That's not abused, just "well-used" .

    You are joking right, that poor thing has been bubbaed by a monster. it is horrible.
     
  9. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,736
    Location:
    Central PA
    Depending on who you're asking, that's a very classic piece.

    Do a search here for the "Fitz Special" and learn a bit of history.

    Or just check out this thread: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=379158&highlight=fitz+special

    This generation doesn't remember the era that produced guns like this and the men who carried them. But your dads (maybe) and grandpops knew them.

    I say, it is cool for what it is. Sure, a pristine example has obvious appeal, but one like this is a tool that had an important job and a distinguished history in it's own way.

    -Sam
     
  10. doc540

    doc540 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    2,546
    Location:
    Southeast Texas
    I'd take it in a minute.:p

    We're so used to seeing a bunch of never-fired, tarted-up, prettyguns we turn our noses up at what, to many people, was just another tool.

    The stories that piece could tell!
     
  11. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
    It has character...and to me, is charming, just as it is.


    Nickel Guns, would have the 'White' adhesive Tape option chosen for their cracked Grips...from old time First Aid Kits...which Tape used to come in a little can...really showed dirt-from-use too, that White Tape...and would harden on here like a rock...


    Lol...


    The one pictured, I think belongs to XavierBreath...
     
  12. Oyeboten

    Oyeboten Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,696
    A cousin -

    [​IMG]
     
  13. WardenWolf

    WardenWolf member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2008
    Messages:
    5,884
    Location:
    Northern Virginia
    Isn't it illegal in most areas without a trigger guard, though?
     
  14. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,736
    Location:
    Central PA
    Say WHAT? I sure don't know all the state laws on all the books throughout the land, but it isn't in the NFA '34 or it's spawn, and I've never heard of such a rule anywhere I've lived.

    Do you know of places where such a rule IS in effect?

    -Sam
     
  15. rdrancher

    rdrancher Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2007
    Messages:
    824
    Location:
    North Texas
    Well, to each his own I guess...

    Gizamo's Fitz is the envy of scores of snub-aholics.

    rd
     
  16. ramis

    ramis Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2006
    Messages:
    164
    Location:
    Scott county, Kentucky
    I'm pretty sure that belongs to XavierBreath.
     
  17. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    23,908
    Location:
    Arizona
    The late Col. Charles Askins Jr. was an honest-to-goodness-gunfighter. During his early years he served with the U.S. Border Patrol in El Paso Texas. At the time the name of the game was smuggling liquor from Old Mexico because Prohibition was still the law of the land. Because of his somewhat risky occupation he was sometimes involved in several shoot-outs a week. Just before World War Two started he switched services and went into the Army as a 2nd, Lt.

    He fought through North Africa, Italy, and Europe, and occasionally left bodies in his wake. Following the war he remained in the Army, and on one assignment at least, he added to his personal body count in French Indo-China. By the time he passed away it was said that the total was somewhere around 40 – give or take.

    When I was much younger – and therefore knew everything that anyone needed to know – I had an opportunity to meet him. I knew that during his Border Patrol days and part of the war years, what you might say was his most “active” period in the shooting business, he had carried a Colt New Service .38 Special that was extensively modified. It had a King ventilated rib with an adjustable rear sight, fancy ivory stocks, and the front of the trigger guard was cut away.

    So I approached this gunfighting legend and ask him, “Wasn’t it ah… well… dangerous to carry that revolver with the trigger guard cut away?”

    He looked me up and down for a few seconds, and I got a distinct feeling that I might have said something that I shouldn’t have. :uhoh:

    Then he spoke. Well he said, “If you ever happen to get into a fuss, you will quickly learn if you survive, that there are a lot of things that happen in a gunfight that are far more dangerous then a cut-away trigger guard.”

    What you are looking at in the first posted picture is not something that is supposed to look cool, and it is not a butcher job. It is a professional piece of equipment designed for the sole purpose of fighting, and getting its owner out of trouble in one piece. During its time it was made for, and carried by, some other noteable fighting men who are still remembered for their exploits.

    In my view this revolver needs no further endorsements.
     
  18. Hawk

    Hawk Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,512
    Location:
    Grand Prairie, TX
  19. Iggy

    Iggy Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    3,011
    Location:
    Wyoming
    Yup, I think that is Giz's Fitz special.

    The feller that carried that gun was plumb serious about his tools.

    That's a dandy.
     
  20. Revolver Ocelot

    Revolver Ocelot Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,470
    I like it, it has character
     
  21. SaxonPig

    SaxonPig Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2006
    Messages:
    4,787
    It's a cut down M1917 owned by forum member Gizamo. As I recall he got it cheap somewhere and bought it because he enjoyed the look of this old warhorse.
     
  22. Revolver Ocelot

    Revolver Ocelot Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,470
    Actually I believe it began on xavier breath's site.

    http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/06/fitz-special.html

    edit: my mistake, the gizamo post predates xaviers blog on the gun, not to mention it seems gizamo actually owns it.

    still some interesting info on the fitz special colts
     
  23. Dimis

    Dimis Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2008
    Messages:
    1,558
    Location:
    Delaware
    see thats what i meant by guns with character in my other post but i ended up getting pics of alot of engraved nickle safequeens oh well

    thanks for all the info i like the gun thats why i grabbed the picture i think its the most beautiful snubbie ive seen in a while because its raw tool like set up with no "extra" "tactical" "gunsmithers name here endorsed" junk on or done to it its when a gun was well... a gun

    p.s. nice spot on the cut trigger gaurd ive looked this pic over alot and i never noticed that
     
  24. Jim K

    Jim K Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    17,622
    I agree with Fuff. The barrel has been cut and the hammer bobbed, but it is not "butchered" or a "bubba job."

    It is quite well done and the friction tape on the stock is not because the stock is cracked, but to give a better grip for control in rapid fire.

    That gun was made for, and probably used by, someone who knew exactly what he wanted and what he wanted it for.

    I am pretty sure it was used for what I sometimes call "serious purposes".

    Jim
     
  25. Revolver Ocelot

    Revolver Ocelot Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,470
    I agree 100% Dimis, if I ever saw a gun like that I'd buy it in a heart beat, yo can tell by looking at it that it has quite a history to it.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page