Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by herrwalther, Nov 9, 2013.
The MSDS for it says it may be fatal if swallowed- maybe that is why they card for it.
Has nothing to do with guns, it is an ingredient used in Meth. Lots of items that will get you flagged especially if you try to buy in quantity. I was purchasing items with a PO for work and was limited to a certain number of camera batteries.
We don't have Acadamy Sports in this area & it doesn't sound as though we need them here either. My response would most likely be: Are you kidding me? Keep it!
Hit 'em in the corporate profits column, it's really the best way to get their attention.
I kind of understand the CYS thing but for someone who never saw a seat belt until I was 12, grew up in a house and played with toys that had lead based paint, put lead split shot on with my teeth when I was fishing, had a .22 rifle with ammo in my bedroom closet from the time I was 12, built and painted I don't know how many plastic models, was replacing brakes and clutches that were made with asbestos since I was 15, was practically bathing in acetone and a wood preservative at work that was banned in the early 80's, worked in construction before abatement was even a word and smoked a pack of cigarettes a day for over 30 years(quit about 7 years ago and was the best thing I ever did) by today's thinking I should have been dead 20 years ago. My main health complaint now is that I have arthritis in about every joint in my body from doing honest labor from the time I was 8. If a person behind a cash register can't tell that I'm over 18, then they have even worse problems than I do they are either blind or have the IQ of a rock. I am not to sure at the upper corporate level it is any better.
I get checked for buying the fancy Root Beer at the self check out at grocery store. I asked the checkout guy, and he said that kids swap out a bottle or two for real beer, so they get flagged to look at each one to make sure nobody is being sneaky.
Why didn't I ever think of that when I was a kid?
Some dozen years or so ago, I bought a video game for my PC. "DOOM3"? I forget which.
The barely-out-of-diapers checkout girl turned red, and then sheepishly asked me for an ID....
She wasn't old enough to buy it. I was about 55.... While I don't look as old as I am (67 now), nobody's going to ever accuse me of being under 21 again. Or under 51....
Some of this is nonsense, and some is CYA. Lots of it is just because it says "gun" somewhere on the package, and a lot because assorted legislators want their names on bills that sound good in Pravda, but do nothing useful.
I never thought of the root beer gag, either, but back when that sort of thing mattered, I'm not sure bottles had been invented yet .... Self-check certainly hadn't....
(The big deal at the supermarket was the automatic door....)
I had a friend some time back who complained about the "easy availability of guns".... Had to remind him that there used to be a gas station about exactly a mile east of his house where his six-year-old could have bought all the ammunition he could carry with just a note from his parents, and maybe a gun. "4473" was just a phone number....
Nobody seems to worry about having their ID checked when buying alcohol or cigarettes to be sure they stay out of the hands of underage kids. Most of us have no problem with steps to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. But some cry about steps taken to keep ingredients to make meth off the streets.
Some areas have different policies, some no restrictions. This is usually due to the amount of meth in each individual area. If they are checking you, you can bet meth is a major problem where you live.
Meth is one of the most dangerous drugs out there. I'll put up with a minor inconvience if it prevents the spread of this drug. It is not a major inconvience, deal with it guys.
An easy answer to "why" would be to ask for clarification on why you need to show ID to purchase it.
If you don't agree with the reason, ask for a manager. Or go elsewhere. Heck, these things are apparently so dangerous you can buy them on Amazon for just under $5, no ID required.
A minimum wage cashier unlikely would not know the answer. Everyone who has been outside knows no alcohol to anyone under 21 or tobacco to under 18. What can and can't be used in meth changes because those little druggies can be quite clever when they want to. I am sure my cashier at Academy doesn't know what it is an item to ID, just following the instructions on the screen.
Same. I have been carded more times for violent video games/movies than alcohol, tobacco, and gun related items combined.
And where, exactly, is this shining bit of information coming from?
I rather enjoy walking into my LGS, buying tannerite, paying in cash, and walking right out without ever showing any form of ID or plastic.
Tractor Supply (yea, not really a farm supply...) carded me for penicillin. What the heck???
You should have refused and asked to speak to the manager. Why, sir?
I think penicillin is a regulated prescription drug. Even though I imagine that at a purchase point named Tractor Supply you got it for livestock use, I can understand the requirement for I.D. being shown.
I have to agree that it is getting stupid out there. Went in to get a bottle of Nyquil (OTC) and at checkout had to give them my drivers lic to scan. Could have gone into a liquor store and bought a bottle of booze without being carded (I'm 70).
This planet is going to hell fast.
I never get carded in my area. I do ask for ID on those credit cards that have "Check ID" scrawled on the back where the signature is supposed to be. Most cardholders around here don't even bother to sign. I hear that a lot of checking needs to be done in other metros to compare signatures - fraudulent use of faked cards is much higher now. Checking the signature is one way to verify the holder is who they are.
As said, it won't work well around here, nobody signs.
We've had an big increase in vehicles being pulled over for tail lights out in the last five years. And the officer always has to get your ID to check you are the legitimate owner of the car. What our local cops are really doing is getting a good whiff of what you are drinking or smoking inside the car. I suspect it's the same with ID checks at the counter - it's not your ID so much as your picture that it's actually you, and your signature. Having done that at the front gate of Ft Benning when mobilized, you get the hang of visual scanning for recognition pretty quick. Your face is an easy visual "fingerprint" of you.
The clerks aren't checking your age, they are checking for a fraudulent transaction by using your face and your signature as gates to approve the purchase. What you are dealing with are a few thieves who make it harder on the rest of us. That really means the penalties and possibility of getting caught aren't severe enough to stop them. So, what are you telling your representatives about that?
Article is from 2011, so whether or not retailers, or states have decided that gun bluing ingredients are something to monitor, I don't know
If that's the case, they should ask to see their teeth, not their ID.
I had to provide ID the other day to purchase arrows and field tips. Old, Gray, and Fay and they wondered if I was 18 or over.
Thanks...at least now I have something that mentions "gun bluing". In the SAME sentence as "aluminum shavings", no less.
Now the frickin' grocery stores are going to card us for buying Reynolds Wrap.
You know, when I was 5 years old, I made gunpowder on my own, filled up a Coke can with it (this was back in the days when you could hit somebody in the head with a Coke can and hurt them doing it), and tossed it into the 55 gallon trash barrel we burned out trash in.
According to my brothers, this blew ashes 50 feet into the air and split the barrol at the seam.
I'm surprised we aren't carding people for charcoal because of stuff like that.
It's just amazing to me that mankind has managed to get this far in our development without all the safety rules and regulations and the laws prohibiting us from getting all this stuff. It's almost as if such occurances are pretty rare or something.
Just finished reading through the entire link. It appears that gun bluing isn't actually creating Meth. It's making something else...and nobody really knows what it is as yet. But it doesn't test as Meth.
Oh great. Now I am going to get carded for getting a new tumbler or high ball set.
I can understand kind of the rationale of getting carded if using a credit card but if paying with cash where is the rationale?
I tell them when they show me a badge there a LEO I show them ID Then I leave everything I was going to buy right their .
I left about $100 worth of gro over the ID crap for smokes I was 63 at time.
Told he to have fun restocking it all and left.
isnt it sickening though when you cant even buy a container of gun blue without having to be carded, or scrutinized, or treated differently based on the actions of a very, very small group of individuals?.. so by normal, unfortunately yeah, thats the path this country is headed down.. pretty soon we will all have to wear oven mitts wherever we go in public because someone, somewhere, at one point in time used a finger to poke someone else in the eye
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