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Is this normal? Or am I out of control?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Bear2000, Oct 15, 2007.

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  1. Bear2000

    Bear2000 Member

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    About five months ago I decided to learn how to shoot a handgun. I went to an indoor range nearby in Greensboro, NC, where the friendly owner taught me how to shoot a Ruger Mark II. When the woman in the lane next to me found out I was a first-timer, she invited me to shoot her Glock 17. Very cool. The last time I had shot a gun was in high school - about 18 years ago.

    That was in early June. I wanted to shoot again, but didn't get the chance until late August, when I had to go to Arkansas on business. While there, I met up with a former student of mine (I used to teach there) for beers. The conversation turned to guns. It turns out he's a huge enthusiast. The next day we went out to his range and shot an M1 Garand and M1 carbine, .45 Auto, 9mm, and .40 S&W. I was hooked.

    When I got back to NC, I had too much work to do to think about shooting again, but by mid-September I was itching to get back to the range. So, after some research and advice from my friend in Arkansas, I purchased a 10/22 (a Walmart SS special with a 21" barrel). I contacted a fellow THR member (RantingRedNeck), who various searched revealed was a member of a nearby gun club that I wanted to join. He hooked me up with the president and a few days later I was a member. We then met at the range, where he installed my scope for me. I was off. Unfortunately, he also let me shoot his Riger P89 and P6 carbine. A 10/22 wasn't going to cut it.

    So, I borrowed another friend's Walther P38 to shoot while I waited for my handgun permits to be processed. I also invested in a Savage 12FV in .223, because another member of the club showed me how fun it is to put holes in paper at 100 yards. I then started spending too much time on THR researching handguns. The result: a new CZ75B with a red dot sight. But I still had fond memories of my first trip to the indoor range with the Ruger Mark II. My new Ruger Mark III Hunter should be here by Friday. Oh, and did I mention that I a Lee Classic Turret reloading kit arrived today? I expect to have my first rounds of .223 ready by Saturday.

    All told, the guns, ammunition, permits, accessories, memberships, and my CCW course (why not, I thought?) have run me close to $2700 - in six weeks! I had no idea, really - I was just blissfully spending my money on a number of credit cards and in cash. Tonight I decided to add it all up and nearly fainted.

    Please tell me this is normal for a newbie who's just thrown himself fully into this hobby! Like my other hobby, cycling, the set up expenses are just kind of high, right? It gets less expensive from here on in, right? That's a good justification, isn't it? And, if you have any advice on how I break this to my wife (we're not rich by any means!), please do share! Afterall, I attribute this in part to you awful people here who keep making me want more toys!

    Okay, I've got to go. There's a shotgun on GunBroker that I've been eyeing and the auction is ending soon. What, you didn't think I was going to let those guys at the club have all the fun shooting skeet, did you? :)
     
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  2. springmom

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    Well, you may have gone a bit overboard a bit quickly, yes.

    It doesn't sound like you have taken the time to enjoy the things you have before you run out and buy more. For a person who is setting out to collect firearms for the sake of collecting, buying without shooting is standard, as new in box firearms are worth more years down the road than those that are worn. But you're apparently intending to shoot, so that's not the point.

    If you can afford what you've spent, you're not spending money you don't have (do NOT go into debt to do this hobby; just don't), you can meet your obligations without shorting other people in your family who also need/want things, then ok. But you're missing the fun of the thing if all you're doing is looking to SPEND without spending time to DO.

    Springmom
     
  3. SoCalShooter

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    That's for me to know and not you!
    I have bought 19 guns this year spent well over 4000 bucks on just guns. Ammo into the untold thousands. :) Your almost normal!! Getting into any sport or hobby is initially expensive. not to mention accessories


    Mossberg 500a
    Ithaca 37a
    Benelli Nova
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    Mosin Nagant
    2-SKS
    2-M1s
    1 M1 Carbine
    2 Ar 15 lowers
    4 misc jap rifles
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    1 Glock 20
    1. Sigma 40f
    1 Walther p38
    1 Colt National Match
    1 Sistema Argentine Colt
    1 S&W 442

    ok so its more like 20 but I keep losing the damn count.
    Plan on purchasing another mosin from a friend next month and a k31swiss and a mauser hopefully all by the end of the year.
     
  4. Arsyx

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    Firearms are great fun to shoot, the unique ones are even more fun to shoot. However, like all toys the awe will eventually wear off. You will then find yourself turning to the certain batch of guns that gives you the best shooting results. I say limit yourself to one gun per purpose. Rather than having useless things like relic guns you'll fire maybe once and end up selling. I'd say get...

    Plinking Rifle
    Plinking Handgun
    An all purpose shotgun
    Assault Rifle
    HD/Carry handgun
     
  5. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    If your new hobby is buying stuff, you seem pretty successful.
     
  6. Bear2000

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    Well, I haven't gone into debt - we're DINKS (Dual Income, No Kids) so no one's getting shortchanged. But I do feel that I've gone overboard a bit.

    That said, I am enjoying my new toys. I think I'm done for now, though. My goal:

    1) Plinking Rifle (10/22)
    2) Plinking Pistol (Ruger Hunter)
    3) Target Rifle (Savage 12FV .223)
    4) HD/Range (CZ75)

    The gun club cost $100, my basic NRA handgun safety course/CCW $75, ammo and accessories $500 or so altogether. Hence the reloading setup. But you're right - I probably could have done without either the CZ or the Ruger Hunter. Oh well - guess I'm stuck.
     
  7. Arsyx

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    I'll go further in depth to help you out a little. I myself tend to go WAY overboard with hobbies until I find myself burned out before I ever actually enjoy the hobby. When I was really young it was a good old table top game called Warhammer 40,000 you assembled the figurines and painted them, then played others, I bought so many of those damn things and got so overwhelmed with having a picture perfect army that I lost interest. When I got into paintball I was so into the sport I rapidly progressed all the way from playing in the woods with friends to tournament paintball, trying out for armature travel teams (after spending 750 dollars on just upgrades to my marker) I lost interest in that to because of it. Just slow down, you'll enjoy it MUCH more this way.
     
  8. MachIVshooter

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    Ummm, actually it usually goes the other way.......

    Many of us here have spent more than your sum on a single gun or even a scope. Title II stuff can easily cost more than a new car.

    But welcome to the addiction!
     
  9. ZeSpectre

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    Weird double post deleted!
     
  10. MachIVshooter

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    Ummm, actually it usually goes the other way.......

    Many of us here have spent more than your sum on a single gun or even a scope. Title II stuff can easily cost more than a new car.

    But welcome to the addiction!;)
     
  11. Bilt4Comfort

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    It's not only normal for newbies...well...you'll see.
    My biggest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell all my stuff for what she thinks I paid for it :eek:.
     
  12. ZeSpectre

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    Sounds like you've jumped in with both feet. It's fine as long as you aren't causing any fiscal issues (I've walked close to that line myself a time or two).

    Arsyx says...
    I'd also say have a 2'nd HD/Carry gun because if (God Forbid!) you ever have to use one, it'll go away for a long time.
     
  13. Arsyx

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    Very true, get a CHEAP BUG
     
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    Stay away from shotguns, it's a whole 'nother set of stuff to buy and they can get stupid expensive.

    You're fine, just lay off buying guns for a while and learn to shoot what you have. Reloading can turn into a whole hobby in itself, it's addictive.
     
  15. SoCalShooter

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    That's for me to know and not you!
    OH yeah I forgot about the reloading stuff...got plenty of that and I have not even bought a reloader yet. Don't forget to get plenty of lockable cabinets for your stuff as you can tell its expensive and not easy to replace all of it.
     
  16. Bilt4Comfort

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    ....and no, you can't do without the CZ.
     
  17. Bear2000

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    Hey all,

    Thanks for the advice and consolation. As I said above, I do think I'm done for now. I have an assortment of things to shoot and the equipment to get my ammunition costs down.

    The funny thing is that my wife is a very avid road cyclist and rides very high end equipment. Her pedals cost twice what a Walmart bike costs. When I brought home a new $2700 Cannondale racing bike last year, she was thrilled that my equipment finally matched hers. We were off to the bike store to buy accessories. But her other hobby is knitting - not too expensive. My other hobby is now, well, not too cheap!

    I see some flowers in her near future and I think that front door she wants painted will get done this weekend...
     
  18. Crunker1337

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    When I turn 18, I won't really be able to indulge in shooting much at all (parents, laws, money).

    I do plan on purchasing a 10/22 and a cool stock for it though. As I live in a pretty safe area, I shall stick with a long blade and pepperspray for home defense.

    Maybe when I'm 19 or 20 I'll buy a center-fire rifle in order to get more familiarized with the sport, then when I'm 21 I'll buy a nice pistol and look into CCW training.

    It's all about knowing what you can put into shooting, and what you want out of it.
     
  19. RKBABob

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    Yes... Once you have collected every type of firearm, and every in caliber, all thats left to spend money on is ammo, reloading supplies, range membership fees, tournament fees, scopes, lasers, and gunsmithing tools!:neener:

    Break it to your wife? Or break up with your wife?:neener:

    Seriously, the items you just purchased aren't perishable. They'll last you for decades. Explain that you might have gone overboard buying new things for your new hobby... but that they're once in a lifetime investments and that you won't need to purchase more firearms of that paricular type anytime soon.

    Bring home a target to show how much your shooting is improving. Mention how much yoou enjoy the camaraderie of the fellas at the range. Maybe take her and the MarkIII t the range?
     
  20. Arsyx

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    Crunker, not to be totally off topic, but as my father said you're only as good with your blade as your enemy. If weapons are expensive for you than buy a cheap Mossberg shotgun at Wal-Mart for 150 dollars. Load it with some good .00 Buckshot and keep it in the closet. It's not like you have to put 100 rounds through your weapon to own it.
     
  21. glockman19

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    YES all to normal.
    All to true
     
  22. Bear2000

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    I did tell her that the guns have a relatively high resale value. I got my new CZ for $300 otd - I'd easily get that back! I also told her that if I did die, she should not just "get rid" of everything. She should log on to THR and get some advice!
     
  23. Arsyx

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    300 dollars for a CZ, good deal man. With that kind of price she can't complain haha.
     
  24. pinstripe

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    It is futile to resist. Once bitten, it is like a vampire's curse. You are hooked. Welcome to my Hell!!!
    Have fun and shoot when you can.
     
  25. The Annoyed Man

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    Phew!! I thought I had it bad. Ever since moving to Texas from California, I've been making up for lost time. I came here with a small collection, but I've spent more on guns or gun related products in the past 6 months than I have in the past 17 years.

    Major items purchased this year:
    • Remington 700 VSF .308
    • Leupold 4.5-14x50 mm VX-III
    • Savage 10FP-HS Precision .308
    • Bushnell Elite 4200 6.5-24x40 mm
    • Sig 1911 GSR Revolution Carry Stainless (CPO)
    • HK USP Compact .40 S&W
    • Leica CRF 1200 Rangefinder

    That's a lot of simoleons so far. Holy smokes. I never really added it up before. I can afford it at this point in my life, and I've pretty much purchased everything I'd been putting off for a very long time. Other than one more item, I'm done. That missing item will be some kind of AR15 clone. But I prolly won't pick that up until after Christmas. Then I'm done.

    I promise. For now.

    Oh, and I easily spent $200-300 spent on ammo...

    The thing that's wrong about all this is that the value of my gun collection now exceeds the value of my guitar collection. There will be an imbalance in the Force unless I rectify it...
     
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