Ishapore 2A1

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  1. Kilroy Was Here

    Kilroy Was Here Member

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    I happen to agree with your stance. You also make a good point about how Ishapore's were transported versus their "original" finish. Yes, I wonder if perhaps they were coated in varying types of substances...not just paint? I'm just not sure.

    Fortunately for us, there are so many military firearms from history past, which were subjected to alterations and changes. I say "fortunately" because it allows for many niche collecting circles. For example, British Lend Lease Garands (as you mentioned) have increased in value as that particular M1 niche grew...as have Russian Capture items and East German VOPO equipment (just to name a few).
     
  2. Panzerschwein

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    Okay well I got the rifle...

    And it doesn't feed. :mad:

    I'll have to work on adjusting the magazine feed lips so the rounds feed right. They are wanting to hit the top of the breach, and not go into the chamber. Some also won't even be picked up by the bolt. The gun is all matching, minus the magazine so I'm not that surprised. Alas, other than that it looks good and the bore is excellent.

    Will keep everyone informed!
     
  3. Kilroy Was Here

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    Cooldill,
    In regard to the rounds not being picked up by the bolt, does it appear as though the follower is somewhat slow to rebound (that is, pushing down on a loaded round and checking if the follower (and round) spring back up quick or slow... If not, that issue may at least be solved by disassembling the magazine and cleaning out any gunk inside. This of course is not to insult your way around guns...you may have already done this. Just a suggestion to possibly solve one of your two problems. The feed lip issue will take patience and trial/error. Good luck!
     
  4. Panzerschwein

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    No, it won't pick up rounds sometimes even during very slow bolt manipulation.

    I have read the feed lips can be adjusted to let the round sit higher in the mag so the bolt can push it, I am sure thats the issue. I am going to get a needle nose smooth claw pliers and start going after it!
     
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    Would a couple of close-up pics of that area on a working 2A mag help you, Cooldill?
     
  6. Panzerschwein

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    Yes, certainly!! It would be greatly appreciated.

    I found an online guide about this:

    http://towhichireplied.blogspot.com/2009/06/enfield-magazine-feed-lips.html

    Some of the images are missing, but they guy explains how to adjust the lips so they work properly. I'm hoping to buy some needle nose pliers with smooth jaws so I don't damage the magazine.
     
  7. paintballdude902

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    i fired a mix of commercial .308, steel .308, milsurp and reloads through my 2a. it eats it all and i never had any signs of high pressure
     
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    Dance with the devil long enough and your toes will get stepped on...:uhoh:
     
  9. Ditchtiger

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    I've both 2A1's, rifle and carbine. One of my boys liked the carbine so much he got one for himself. As he moved to Cali. I have that one also(12 round mag).
    They both like lead bullets. 150gr. round nose and 170gr. flat point with 10grs. Red Dot. Milk jug accurate at 200 yards off hand. Ordered the rear site protective ears for the carbines as they were left off to copy the look of the original Brit. jungle carbine. But as the wood is notched and the barrel has the base for the ears I put them back on.
     
  10. Kilroy Was Here

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    Ok, sounds you are on the right path then.... And good call with the smooth needle nose...you don't want to make matters worse by adding contours/abrasions to the feed lips. Although the Enfield action is a great design, it seems magazines have always been the bane of their existence...I owned a wire-wrapped Enfield with a matching magazine that still exhibited feed issues similar to yours. Part of the problem is that Enfield magazines were to really only be removed for cleaning, but I wonder if magazines were removed more often than they should have been. Adjusting the magazine should follow the same philosophy as cutting precise wood cuts... Measure twice and cut once. In other words, make very small and methodical changes and then try to feed dummy cartridges. Repeat process until the system is running reliably.
     
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    PM sent. ;)
     
  12. lobo9er

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    there is no pressure difference. This has been discussed and debunked here and many places. If its safe for 7.62 pressure its gonna be safe for .308 pressure. Unless your implying they are not safe for 7.62?

    I am awaiting an email and will hopefully get one of these in time for rifle season. I am looking forward to joining the club here on owning one of these.
     
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  13. FROGO207

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    I purchased a couple way back when the price was way too good to refuse so I would have a 7.62X51/308 rifle of some sort in the safe. Never even shot them yet as I found a REM 7400 Hi Gloss within a week if them arriving while still waiting for my dies to get here. Now presently I count 7 rifles in that caliber in the safe. This winter if ever things slow down I MAY try to go over them and see if they are good shooters and such.
     
  14. stoky

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    My local mil-surp maven says just the opposite.
    I think there cool and interesting. But made in India? seriously? :scrutiny:
     
  15. 1KPerDay

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    Your maven is wrong. 2A1s in 7.62 are good to go, steel wise.
     
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