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ISO the Kalashnikov 0f 1911s

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ta4, Dec 24, 2006.

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  1. ta4

    ta4 Member

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    Is there such a thing? I don't collect firearms, I beat the heck out of them. They do not have to be tack-drivers, but they do have to carry well & be very good sd pieces. A 1911 can be in my future, but I want the equivalent of a Kalashnikov:very reliable, not too tight & acceptable sd accuracy. Ideas?
     
  2. Roadkill

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    Tokarev 33 or Type 54.
     
  3. 10-Ring

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    Maybe a Mak? :scrutiny:
     
  4. C-grunt

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    Springfield Armory Milspec I think would fit the bill. Nothing fancy about it.
     
  5. razorburn

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    I think he's saying he wants a highly reliable 1911, rather than another gun. A 1911 as reliable as an ak. Of which, I have no idea. A lot of the 1911's I've read about need tweaking out of the box to run 100%, and even after that, I'm not sure they'll run dirt/rain/snow like a kalashnikov.
     
  6. doubleg

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    So you want a cheap reliable and poorly made 1911?:evil: jk Sounds like a springfield G I would fit the bill.
     
  7. Hacker15E

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    Rock Island Armory or Springfield GI are both inexpensive and function well under austere conditions -- just like a good AK would. I have both and they are both as well built (and function as well as) my Colts. The RIA, especially, has functioned perfectly directly out of the box with zero tinkering whatsoever.

    My Springer, however, probably wouldn't be as good as it is if it weren't for the efforts of 1911Tuner. I'm convinced, based on seeing him work, that nearly any 1911 for nearly any manufacturer can run flawlessly if it is within the correct tolerances.
     
  8. daysleeprx

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    Norinco 1911 :)
     
  9. Steelcore

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    You want a Les Baer.
     
  10. joab

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    Definitely a Norinco

    Utterly reliable and you wont ever cry about messing up the finish
     
  11. Onmilo

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    A Colt 1911A1 or Series 70 with a non collet barrel bushing would fit the requirements nicely.
    Used versions can be found for $700 or less if you are persistent.
    Keep it simple and maintain it well.
    I have worked on 1911A1 pistols while serving in the Military that had by anybodies guess well over 100,000 rounds fired and they were still going strong and being used when I left in 1983.
     
  12. Coronach

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    Most of the 1911s that actually require tweaking are ones that differ significantly from the milspec 1911. Milspec 1911s tend to run like tops. It's only once one starts fiddling with the design that you start to get problems. So, get a milspec (either a Springfield or something else) would be my advice.

    Mike
     
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    Rock Island Armory, even if you do manage to break it or lose it in the mud, a replacement is $320.

    I plan on torture testing mine in the future.
     
  14. Searcher1911

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    The further from the basic design the more chance the 1911 will balk. I think what comes closest to what you are seeking is a basic, no-frills mil-spec 1911 and then stick with quality ball ammunition in good magazines (eg, Wilson's are great). I am a 1911 lover and my personal favorite is a Para Ordnance P-14 Limited. My next favorite is a Colt Government Model. Either pistol will shoot anything fed, including my crappy reloads with home cast lead bullets. A good 1911 is a joy to own.
     
  15. Devonai

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    You absolutely, positively cannot go wrong with a Norinco 1911A1.
     
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    +1 on the NORINCO

    If ever you can find one there in the states i'd definitely get the NORINCO. Out of the box their damn reliable. Here in RP only a handful buy the RIA. RIA by the way never passed the Philippine National Police torture test. The drop test, the crack test, the thousand round test, etc.

    Goodluck anyway on your decision.
     
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  17. 1911 guy

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    Three suggestions from me.

    Springfield G.I.
    Rock Island Armory
    High Standard
     
  18. 2TransAms

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    Series 70 Colt, or Norinco.
     
  19. Hacker15E

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    Where is more information about this?
     
  20. doubleg

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    DONT GET THE NORICO... Have some PRIDE. There is nothing worse than chinese rip off 1911.
     
  21. 1911 guy

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    Huh?

    Check out the reviews the Norks get. They're built well. Don't worry about supporting the ChiComs, none have been imported in a decade or more. All your cash used for purchase stays with the person/dealer you buy from. Your trip to a department store will do more to support a forign economy than buying a used pistol.
     
  22. daysleeprx

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    Spoken by someone who obviously has never owned one. :rolleyes:
     
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    This is 2006, we live in a global economy.
     
  24. schmeky

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    Agree on the Norinco's. I've had 2, could still kick myself for getting rid of them.

    True military spec pistols but made out of excellent steel with high strength steel internal parts.

    Shoot it get good with it, then fit a Bar-Sto barrel and bushing to get some really tight groups and still be reliable.
     
  25. nathan

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    i may get a nork if they are still blow 350.
     
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