Cosmoline
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This just came up:
"ItalyItaly investigates US marine over agent killing
Italian magistrates have placed a US marine under official investigation for murder over the killing of an Italian agent in Iraq in March. Intelligence officer Nicola Calipari was shot dead at an improvised checkpoint near Baghdad as he was accompanying freed hostage Giuliana Sgrena to safety. She was shot in the shoulder during the incident.
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http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=327642&lng=1
This is completely beyond the pale. Italian courts have NO JURISDICTION OVER THIS ISSUE AT ALL! It was a shooting that took place in Iraq. Jurisdiction rests only with the Iraqi courts and the US military courts. Italy has no authority over Iraq whatsoever, and the man who was shot there was an Italian agent operating on US-controlled Iraqi soil.
This is just the latest in a long line of European courts attempting to assert criminal jurisdiction on the basis of the CITIZENSHIP of the alleged victim. Spanish courts started the process when they used the Spanish citizenship of alleged victims of Pinochet to bring charges against him in Spanish court for crimes that had no relation to Spain whatsoever. These edicts run directly against longstanding jurisprudence that was established only after long and bloody struggles. A court attempting to charge a foreigner with murder merely for killing one of their citizens in a foreign country is itself commiting an act of STATE AGGRESSION against the sovereign status of that nation. I cannot stress this strongly enough. Attempts by Italy to enforce their edict would be grounds for a declaration of war. Indeed they'd be the firmest grounds for a declaration of war we've had since Pearl Harbor or the Iran hostage crisis.
NO TERRORIST poses anything like the level of threat to our sovereign status that these out-of-control Eurocourts and their vaunted ICC pose against us. We need to move quickly and with force if necessary to stop them. Any attempts to seize US citizens on these baseless charges should be met with immediate force. ANYONE who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution is in fact duty-bound to use all necessary force to stop these efforts.
"ItalyItaly investigates US marine over agent killing
Italian magistrates have placed a US marine under official investigation for murder over the killing of an Italian agent in Iraq in March. Intelligence officer Nicola Calipari was shot dead at an improvised checkpoint near Baghdad as he was accompanying freed hostage Giuliana Sgrena to safety. She was shot in the shoulder during the incident.
..."
http://euronews.net/create_html.php?page=detail_info&article=327642&lng=1
This is completely beyond the pale. Italian courts have NO JURISDICTION OVER THIS ISSUE AT ALL! It was a shooting that took place in Iraq. Jurisdiction rests only with the Iraqi courts and the US military courts. Italy has no authority over Iraq whatsoever, and the man who was shot there was an Italian agent operating on US-controlled Iraqi soil.
This is just the latest in a long line of European courts attempting to assert criminal jurisdiction on the basis of the CITIZENSHIP of the alleged victim. Spanish courts started the process when they used the Spanish citizenship of alleged victims of Pinochet to bring charges against him in Spanish court for crimes that had no relation to Spain whatsoever. These edicts run directly against longstanding jurisprudence that was established only after long and bloody struggles. A court attempting to charge a foreigner with murder merely for killing one of their citizens in a foreign country is itself commiting an act of STATE AGGRESSION against the sovereign status of that nation. I cannot stress this strongly enough. Attempts by Italy to enforce their edict would be grounds for a declaration of war. Indeed they'd be the firmest grounds for a declaration of war we've had since Pearl Harbor or the Iran hostage crisis.
NO TERRORIST poses anything like the level of threat to our sovereign status that these out-of-control Eurocourts and their vaunted ICC pose against us. We need to move quickly and with force if necessary to stop them. Any attempts to seize US citizens on these baseless charges should be met with immediate force. ANYONE who has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution is in fact duty-bound to use all necessary force to stop these efforts.