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It's official: concealed carry works.

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by harmonic, Jun 28, 2009.

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  1. harmonic

    harmonic member

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    http://www.limaohio.com/articles/carry-38789-concealed-law.html

     
  2. SaxonPig

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    It's always the same story. Dire predictions of blood in the streets, gun fights over parking spaces, and accidental shootings galore by morons, idiots and Obamacrats (sorry for the redundancy) which NEVER come true. Average people being armed causing no harm to society and criminals being deterred by victims able to protect themselves or better yet, shot to death for their violent, criminal acts.
     
  3. danprkr

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    I didn't know anyone with a brain needed convincing.
     
  4. jakemccoy

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    "The Police View" should be at the beginning and highlighted. In fact, that section could be its own article. That section neutralizes some popular anti-gun arguments.

     
  5. jakemccoy

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    This is the type of talk that I fear more than any blatant anti-gun person:

    Basically, the Sheriff wants to be the decider on who gets a CCW permit. He wants his state to go from "shall issue" to "may issue". That's a backward move because the trend is for states to go from "may issue" to "shall issue".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rtc.gif

    California is may issue. It sucks.
     
  6. rondog

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    True. It's the ones WITHOUT brains we gotta work on.
     
  7. Vern Humphrey

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    And the media will report any attempts to introduce shall-issue laws like this, predicting what might happen, rather than what has happened in the almost 40 states that have either shall-issue or no requirment for a permit.
     
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    Why can't the damn media just be normal, and report NEWS? Instead of always trying to sensationalize everything as much as possible? Like the guy that was arrested the other day with an "ARSENAL", including three handguns, a shotgun, and <GASP> 200 rounds of ammo?
     
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    The damn media doesn't exist to report news. The damn media exists to push ultra-liberal causes, and they will spin and twist the news any way they can to accomplish that.
     
  10. Rawb77

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    I think the phrase; "you're preaching to the choir" properly fits here.
     
  11. Vern Humphrey

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    Well, there may be a couple of people sitting in the back pews who haven't heard this sermon yet.

    And this is an excellent example of how to study the media -- we know and can prove that enacting "shall-issue" will not cause all the predicted calamities. But the media will go ahead and predict them, anyway.

    And by that, we can judge how they "report" the rest of the news, the things we don't know so much about.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rtc.gif

    Now that I've gotten married and moved into a townhouse off post, I'm really starting to like my adopted state [WA]. Really my only issue is that maybe their requirements for a CCP are too lax, hence not many states recognize a WA state CCP. I've got to see about getting a more stringent CCP locally that will be recognized by most states, for travel purposes and for when I eventually PCS. If anybody has any info on such a permit, I'd vastly appreciate it.
     
  13. danprkr

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    You LIE sir, there aren't 200 rounds of ammo in the entire state of TX! I cannot believe one person could amass that much wealth at one time. :neener:
     
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    The damn media exists to sell commercial time and ad space.
    Don't fool yourself into thinking there is anything but lazy (cheap) journalism going on out there. Hanlon's razor (sometimes attributed to RA Heinlein) applies here:
    The fact is, it is cheap and easy to do a half-assed job of sensationalizing the news, and actual journalism is about dead.
     
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    This seems like an easy answer but I am not sure, does unrestricted mean you can just carry a gun whenever and in any way...doesn't make sense?

    What does "unrestricted" on the wikipedia map of concealed carry mean?

    (Vermont is the only state that is unrestricted)
     
  16. Vern Humphrey

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    But what cannot be explained by stupidity is the consistent bias. If it were mere studpidity, you'd see stories slanted or mis-reported both ways -- and you don't.

    Remember also that ignorance of the subject is one symptom of bigotry -- "I don't need to do any study or research. I already know guns (or Catholics, Republicans, etc.) are bad."

    Journalism is about dead. Political activism among so-called journalists is alive and well.
     
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    This is the hyperbole used by the antis any time that another state wants to pass CC laws. It is the same tired line used by the politicians that always oppose the idea of the people having the ability to defend themselves. Sooner or later, we will get the messgae through to the masses.
     
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    Be careful what you wish for...
     
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    Vermont does not have a CCW licence requirement, citizens of Vermont can carry concealed, no licence required/needed (with the obvious exceptions of no-carry in government buildings and schools)

    Vermont also has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation, partially due to it's sparse population, partly due to it's eminently sensible "no CCW licence needed" laws
     
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    I'm not wishing it was harder to get a CCP in WA, far from it. It's just too bad that more states don't recognize it.
     
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