...yeah, RIGHT! Here's just one example to throw in the face of those who say that you only INCREASE your chances of getting hurt by resisting the "bad guys." (Apologies if it's not directly gun-related) http://kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=127336 My first thought was, "how on earth does a group of people just STAND there while another person is getting beaten, possibly to death? Er, sometimes I forget that there are smaller drugstores than where I work. I mentioned a story that hit a lot "closer to home" in another thread where pharmacy employees were made to lie on the floor during a robbery, but that one turned out "OK," in that the perp just took the drugs and left. I don't think you can make a "hard-and-fast" rule for something like this, but it seems that when given the "lie on the floor" command might be the time to start thinking about fighting back...??? (ESPECIALLY when it's from someone that you've actually "banned" from your pharmacy! Maybe the guys I work for are more forgiving than most, but it takes a **LOT** for things to get to that point in my experience!) ETA - when I speak of "fighting back," it's under the assumption that all the victims are obeying the "no-guns" policy of the workplace. Not the best odds if against an armed robber, but IMO much better than lying down and waiting for a bullet (or hammer) to the skull...!!!