I've decided on Del-Ton

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I have a couple stripped lowers and am going to do a mid length and I really like the Del_Ton rifle kits. This will be my first upper build. How bad can I mess it up? Any assembly tips (tools?)

There were so many options and I am having a hard time choosing. Which options would you select for your rifle kit and why?

I think I was looking at 1/9 chrome lined barrel, YHM lite free float rail, Magpul CTR black stock, and the rest would be standard parts, But honestly there are probly about 10 different combinations there I would be happy with!

Do you see any real downside to going with the regular unchromed barrel? Do they actually shoot better?
 
Look at Spikes, or a complete home build. Don't buy Del-Ton.

Non-chromed=non-corrosion resistant.
 
How easy is it to get DD parts> website says out of stock on alot of stuff right?

Other source for DD parts?
 
My AR-15 is a Del-ton mid length on a CMMG receiver. The only options I chose were the chrome lined bbl and M-4 feed ramps. If I were to do it again, I'd likely add the chrome lined bolt carrier group just for ease of cleaning. AR's go together like Legos. You should have no problem. Mine is reliable and surprisingly accurate for an entry-priced kit. Sure Daniel Defense or LMT would be a more robust rifle, but mine is a range toy. If you want to get tactical and run the gun really hard, go with the brands that have solid reputations for making solid rifles. If you just want to have a decent AR to shoot, the Del-ton kit will serve you well. I have 3k rounds through mine with no parts breakage or unusual wear. --Stork
 
I wouldn't call Del-ton substandard, but there is better stuff for similar money.

For DD look at Aim Surplus, PSA for barrels, Primary Arms. Really the DD barrels and BCGs are all you need. The rest can be any good milspec parts: PSA, Spike's, Bravo co., etc.

I would get 1:8 twist. It handles low 50 gr to upper 70 gr. The 1:9 may not group the heavy stuff to well. If you can't find a 1:8 the way you need it, 1:7 will be fine.

Chrome lined is nice to have, but not really needed unless you gonna put 10,000 rounds a year thru it or run full auto. If you get DD, it will be CL. The DD chrome lined accuracy will be fine.
 
Stork, you have a point about plinking vs hard-use. I'd still advise the OP to buy the high-quality, so that if the weapon is ever pressed into a go to war/defensive use it's ready to run hard and dirty and hot.

@ mshootnit, bravocompanyusa.com and rainierarms.com both carry DD parts.
 
I just purchased a DD barrel today from a LGS. They had numerous uppers available as well as lowers and LPKs. I know gandrtactical has parts in stock as well. another shop can get stripped lowers in about 4 days.


So yes they are available.
 
What do you want to do with the rifle? What accuracy are you expecting? Will it be for plinking, hunting, high round count classes and competition, or what?

Del-Ton is OK for some uses, less good for others.

It's very hard to go wrong with BCM or Daniel Defense if you're willing to spend the slightly greater cost - but it would be overkill for a pure plinker.

For a relatively low cost option that appears to be fairly high quality, look at Palmetto State Armory. In fact, look at this kit and also the $50 cheaper non-MOE version:

http://palmettostatearmory.com/2277.php

As for quadrails, if you don't know that you need one, you don't need one.
 
Buddy of mine borrowed my AR (Del-ton) and posted on another forum (paintballnation?) pics of my upper aginst his telling people to point out the "substandard" DelTon vs his "High Quality" BCM upper.

No one got it right.
 
Buddy of mine borrowed my AR (Del-ton) and posted on another forum (paintballnation?) pics of my upper aginst his telling people to point out the "substandard" DelTon vs his "High Quality" BCM upper.

You realize the problems that stem from low quality guns don't show themselves as visible problems. That is why so many companies can get away with fooling people.

Can you tell from a photo that the barrel and bolt has been HP/MPI tested? Can you tell the barrel steel? The Twist? The list goes on.
 
I do not get the strong dislike of the Del-ton guns. I recommend one for my brother. He's not going to be involved in combat and will use it several times a year. I myself am going with a Bravo company build because I will be using it a bit more. Still, Del-ton is fine for a lot of folks.
 
I do not get the strong dislike of the Del-ton guns. I recommend one for my brother. He's not going to be involved in combat and will use it several times a year. I myself am going with a Bravo company build because I will be using it a bit more. Still, Del-ton is fine for a lot of folks.

I have never understood this argument. I am not picking on you specifically but I see this all the time.

It is like arguing that everyone should drive a Geo Metro because it can go from point A to point B. The difference here though is that the Metro would cost 90% of what a Lexus does.

If the gun is never going to be shot you are probably right. But why save 100 bucks and take the chance on a less than optimal weapon.
 
thanks for the link Z Mich. that is one outstanding looking rifle kit at a good price and availability.
 
Del-Ton will make most shooters/builders happy.
The website does not accurately list inventory so call them when ordering.
Ask for Joel or Lauren and you will get skilled assistance ordering
 
I've built a few. I just built a Grendel the night before last. To do it with bare parts, you'll need quite a few tools, such as a special wrench and special vice block, and the roll pin tools are nice to have. If you plan on pinning the front sight/gas block, you'll need a drill press with a vice or a mill. The worst thing you can do is not have the minimum needed tools for the job. The Colt armorer manual is helpful.

As far as parts, I can say that as long as you get mil spec stuff you are okay. DPMS has good parts. Their trigger group is machined so you can polish it up real nice and get a crisp 4lb. trigger. The A2 buttstock has a metal trapdoor (the one I just got did). For receivers, I get those locally. They make a lot of them around here. Aero Precision makes an okay one for cheap, I fitted mine myself at the store and there is NO play, but at the same time, you don't need a hammer to pop it open. Just right.

Barrels? Wow. When it comes to barrels, I like to get a fine one. The barrel is what really makes or breaks an AR. I just got a Satern. If I were to go with a shooter, just a range toy or even a fighting weapon that doesn't need crucial accuracy, I'd get a chrome lined barrel. They just last longer. But my HD weapon, an M4 I've had since '02, is built on mostly Olympic Arms parts (save the trigger --their triggers are AWFUL). I built using the cheapest parts I could find at the time. The barrel is blackened stainless. Oly, they don't have the best reputation, and I would never use their parts exclusively, but this thing runs like a champ. Their receivers are actually not that bad, the bolt components work fine but are poorly machined.

My advice to you is unless you plan on building a few special weapons, is to get your upper assembled by the factory. The tools add up and collect dust. I have 'em, but then again, I build stuff I can't buy that way. If you have a buddy that has those tools, well, go that route...

For most of my builds, I like to use the KAC FF tube, custom barrels, JP Ent. tactical bolt carrier (by FAR the finest bolt carrier made) and the rest mil spec. I might use a two stage trigger, but if I use a single stage, I modify a DPMS one to my liking.

There are places online, I haven't dealt with them, that are supposed to have all mil spec kits that contain parts from military contractors. The parts can be Colt/FN/Somebody else, or all from one place. It wouldn't matter to me really provided it is all mil spec, that is what you want anyway. Top that off with a good barrel, and you have a weapon every bit as good as the high price brand names.

Sometimes it seems cheaper though to just buy a used Colt and then get whatever upper you want later and then have the two. You'll get a good lower this way, and then you can get that Noveske upper later (if that is what you want). Colt makes a good weapon, I used one for years and could hit point targets to 600m. That was with a chrome lined barrel, 14.5, narrow profile, the older cheaper collapsing stock, and non FF rail. And factory iron sights.
 
I built a Delton middy several years ago...

I paid $50 for a chrome lined barrel and in hindsight, since I clean my guns after every ranges session and don't shoot imported steel cased (often corrosive) .223 ammo, this money was basically wasted.

My rifle has been both reliable and accurate.... but I haven't pumpled 500 rounds a day through it as at a carbine class, and I'm not an LEO using it as my patrol weapon. So for my needs, the Delton has been good to go.

If I was to do it again, I'd look for a gov't profile middy barrel. They're out there, but often hard to find. The HB is just a little more front heavy than I care for.

You do get what you pay for and Bravo Company, CMMG and LMT are certainly top shelf.

IMO Delton is a good choice for an AR plinkster or SHTF rifle.
 
Opinions are what makes forums so interesting. I prefer to let the rifle do the talking:

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For reference these 2 groups are typical of the rifle, as long as I do my part it will shoot like this all day long. The ammo is reloaded PMC brass, Dillon 550 and nothing as far as case prep except cleaning in corncob. No primer pocket cleaning, no trimming, etc.

One other small item of interest. The upper is a Del-Ton sale special, and the lower is an 80% finished receiver. And I have 3 of them, and they all shoot like this. Not an opinion, just the facts.
 
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kwelz-- not sure where you get you info from. I am a armorer, shooter, have run AR's in PSD work etc-- The Delton rifle is a decent piece for a general plinker, range gun and HD gun.
Do you know about the barrels and who they get them from?? Have you ever shot one? Owned one?

Delton is not a MFG of anything. The assemble the parts. The barrels they use are made by Mossberg. The older DTI barrels were made by Wilson. Both good barrel mfg's. If you have some proof that they make rifles with substandard parts I sure would like to see it.

Most here will never run a AR to failure. There are a few brands to stay away from but for what the OP is wanting a Delton is GTG.
 
delton is great. am looking to get one myself in the future, i have shot delton kit rifles and is just like any other rifle...it goes bang every time, plus i dont need a military colt quality rifle because it wont be doing any military work, just target shooting and hunting.
 
I spoke to Del-Ton last week and they told me their barrels are still made for them by Wilson. Where does the Mossberg barrel information come from?

JayPee
 
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