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I've got some reading to do: Lyman #49 or Speer #14

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  1. ddc

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    Hello to all, brand new reloader here.

    I've got both manuals and will be doing a bunch of reading before I ever come close to a reloading bench.

    Are there any strong feelings as to which would be best for the novice to read first?

    I'll end up reading both (as well as others I'm sure which will be recommended as a result of this thread) but thought I'd check to see if one was significantly more recommended than the other.

    Thanks,
    Don.
     
  2. Jesse Heywood

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    Smart move on getting the books first. Many don't. I would go with the Lyman first, it is geared toward the new loader.
     
  3. 9w1911

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    Read both and also pick up a few more.
     
  4. JohnM

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    The Lyman is a great manual, I probably use that one more than any of the dozen plus I have.
    Problem with manuals by bullet makers is they only cover their own.
    I shoot a lot of cast and got the new Lee manual because it has a lot of cast loads in it, and also the Lyman cast bullet manual of course.
     
  5. GT1

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    Read the Lyman first, it has good info, particularly about powders. The Speer has a lot of technical ballistics stuff, but generally is interesting. Buy the Lee book when you can, it is probably the most entertaining and interesting for a new reloader and has the most load data by far.

    They all spend time telling us how wonderful they and their products are, but they are worth the read.
     
  6. Arkansas Paul

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    I read the Speer first b/c that's what came with our Rockchucker kit.
    Later, we got the Lyman 49th.

    I actually love them both, but I agree, read the Lyman first. It has a section on powder that I found very informative where it lists the powders in order of burn rate and tells you what kind of powders they are (extruded, ball, etc.), as well as a little information about what cartridges they're suited for. Also, if you're going to load cast boolits, Lyman is better for that as well.

    Happy reading and happy loading.
     
  7. Walkalong

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    They are both good books. Matters not which order you read them in.
     
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    Lyman's my favorite.
    My problem is, I use Berry's, Missouri Bullet & Hunting Shack bullets.
    None of which has a manual like Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Nosler etc..

    So after Lyman's, my favorites are from Loadbooks USA.
    One Caliber, One Book.
    They're reprints of everyone's reloading data all in one $6-$8 book.
     
  9. ddc

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    Many thanks. I'll be back with more questions; of that I'm sure.
    D.

    PS: I forgot I've got the Lee manual also. Plenty of reading ahead. Not a problem; I love to read.
     
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    I haven't found a reloading manual yet that didn't have something good in it. I really like the Lee and Sierra if I had to choose.
     
  11. Kachok

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    I have four reloading manuals, well three and a half since my Hodgdon is a summery that came with my Lee kit years back, I won't rank that one since it is not the complete manual, but good data though.
    First Place Nosler #6.
    Pros: Lots of powders listed for everything I load, full power load data, not writen by a team of pressure sensitive lawyers, it lists modern load data for 6.5x55 which none of the others do. Awesome recommended loads that have given me sub-MOA results in all five of my rifles even the super picky Browning, really good notes from the guys that tested the loads. List highly compressed loads of slow burning powders as long as they are safe pressure, never seen anyone else do this.
    Cons: Only lists Nosler bullets so no cast data or bullet classes they don't make such as any 17 caliber, 38-55 or 458 Win Mag. Showing it's age a little, no data for new hot rounds such as the 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Creedmore, 30 Rem AR or the newest powders. (They do now make a Nosler #7 that I don't have yet, sold out of them locally)
    Second Lyman #49
    Pros: Also lists recommended powder/charges for maximizing accuracy, lists cast bullets even for rifle cartridges, lists bullets from all the top companies including Nosler, Hornady and Serria.
    Cons: Much like Nosler #6 this book is showing a little age by not having some of the newer cartridges/powders.
    Third Place Hornady #9
    Pros: Being a new manual this one has all the new gagets on the market, things like CFE/Superformance powders and cartridges like the Creedmore and even a nice selection of popular wildcats. They list 50 BMG :D Don't own one but I can dream right?
    Cons: Painfully low pressure data for some cartridges, for example their max load data for a 150gr w/Varget in a 308 is only a hair above Nosler's starting minimum load, I just so happen to own the exact same rifle they tested their 308 in with the same bullets and I call BS. No top accuracy charge/powder is listed, a major letdown. VERY limited data on even some popular cartridges, for example their data on the 270 WSM was simply laughable, I would not even have made an entry with that. They ommited some of thier own bullets from testing in some cartridges, for example there is no 208gr A-Max listed for the 30-06 or 300 WSM, but they list it for 308?!? I consider that a half ass incomplete manual and I wrote them a letter telling them as much.
    Need to get the Serria and Speer but the Serria is sold out everywhere I have been and I won't get a Speer manual until they finish their testing on the Deep Curl bullets which is their new mainstay replacing the Hot Core.
     
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  12. BYJO4

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    Both are excellent and I have them in my collection of manuals. I would read the Lyman first.
     
  13. GaryL

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    I would put the Lyman first as well.
     
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