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J-frame, K-frame, etc.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by WifeofBleys, Jan 23, 2011.

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  1. WifeofBleys

    WifeofBleys Member

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    Hi, everyone...

    I am new to shooting, as can probably be gleaned from my posts...lol! Several members have written wonderful, informative responses in threads I've started and I so appreciate everyone taking the time to give advice/suggestions. One thing I do not understand and would like to know more about are the different frames of revolvers. I don't mean for someone to sit and type it all out, as I assume that might take a long time. Is there one place I could go (wikipedia or somewhere on the web) to educate myself on this subject?

    Thanks again, everyone!
     
  2. David E

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    There are different designations for different manufacturers, but 99% of the revolver frame size discussion is about Smith and Wesson's.

    While they made other frame sizes in the past, the current ones are:

    J-frame (smallest frame)

    K-frame (medium)

    L-frame (medium/large)

    N-frame (large)

    X-frame (XX large)
     
  3. WifeofBleys

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    Thanks!! That was alot easier than I expected! :)
     
  4. Gato Montés

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    Ahh! Damn you David! I just finished typing everything out.:banghead:

    Anyway, Smith and Wesson's website lists everything according to frame size if you want some comparable examples. http://www.smith-wesson.com
     
  5. WifeofBleys

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    Lol, Nasser! Seriously, if there's anything else you would like to add.....
     
  6. David E

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    I know the feeling all too well !!
     
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    Idiot me just realized that they are alphabetically ordered. I had been trying to keep the sizes straight in my head for a couple years.... Oh, what happened to "M"? Is it just missing from the order like "E" in test grades (A B C D F)?
     
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    Ummmm... in the test grades F isn't a grade. It was just short for FAIL.

    And yeah, I want a gun with an "M" frame too....
     
  9. oldfool

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    yep, that covers it !

    except they left out the part about k frames being endowed with a mysterious special magic unique amongst all firearms, you know ;)
    (it is rumored in some circles that the k-frame designer had a crystal pyramid parked under his workbench)
    try one, and you will understand why some us "believe" that

    by the way, ma'm, your Taurus 941 is a close clone of the S&W J-frame model 651
    the Taurus 94 equivalent being the S&W 63
    (and it is pretty widely acknowledged that Ks do have better, lighter, smoother triggers)

    people do sometimes talk about other brands of revolvers in J/K/L/N sizes, merely as "shorthand speak" in describing revolver size, only because the S&W alphabet is so well known
    Ruger Speed/Security Sixes are "k-frame size", Ruger GP100s are "L/N" size, meaning quite similar to (though not precisely identical), for example
     
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    I too wasn't sure about the designation but thanks for the answers. And now I know.
     
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    The "I" and "M" frames....

    The S&W "I" frame was their first hand ejector, I believe, in 1896. It was a little smaller and lighter than the J frames and was a .32; they're sweet little revolvers. The .22 M-frames were the first Ladysmiths and were also lightly built.

    Here's a picture from armchairgunshow.com. It's a good one for comparison.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Forgot the X frame!!!!
     
  13. oldfool

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    if you are 5'9" with wrists like a teenage girl (like mine) they be real easily "forgotten" ! :)
     
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    That pic predates the X frame. :)
     
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    It's easy to forget the X frame, few people can afford the ammo to shoot it much!

    Ken
     
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    You can tell the X frame by the wheels!!! :evil::D
     
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    If you are looking for a site that will match the model numbers with frame sizes and match model numbers to the older names of the S&W handguns there is a page on Handloads.com with the information. I find it very useful...

    There is an "M" frame by the way, it's a 22 Hand Ejector.
     
  18. Jim K

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    Colt also used letters. I think the following list is complete but feel free to correct or add.

    Revolvers

    AA King Cobra
    D Police Positive, Detective Special, Cobra
    E Old type Official Police, Officer's Model Match, original Trooper
    F All percussion revolvers
    I Python
    J New type Official Police Mk III, Trooper Mk III and variants
    G, K, and Q SA .22 revolvers
    MM Anaconda
    P Single Action Army

    Automatics

    DA Double Action Government
    M 1903/1908 pocket auto
    N 1908 .25 vest pocket auto
    O Government Model (1911)
    S Woodsman .22 Auto and variants

    Jim
     
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    The S&W M frame (original Ladysmith) is really tiny, something few people realize who have not handled one. The cylinder diameter is just about the size of a quarter yet it holds seven shots. Those guns should not be fired with ANY modern ammo; the guns are too valuable and the cylinder walls just too thin to risk damage.

    Jim
     
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