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J. Stevens Springfield 84 C 22 rifle

Discussion in 'Firearms Research' started by Riss, Oct 6, 2006.

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  1. Riss

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    Odd thing about the rifle is that the model shows as 84 C-, yep, NOT 84-C. But C- . The guntrader book actually shows it as model 84-S. Not sure if it is missing a hood on the front sight. Has a peep peep rear, v notch mid sight and a flat, sheet metal post front sight. Does the 84 C-, have some sort of significance or did someone just put the numbering stamps in the wrong spots ? And why is there 2 different rear sights ? Any sort of insight appreciated. A sheet of what I could figure out is listed below. J. Steven Arms Co.
    Springfield Model 84 C- (book indicates model 84-S)
    Serial # none visible

    Made between 1940-48
    original, unrestored condition
    shows possible old restoration to stock
    no visible damage, minor wear to working surfaces
    bore crisp, clean, no pitting

    valued by condition
    as new $178
    Excellent $153
    Good $97

    .22 short, long, long rifle
    detachable 5 shot magazine
    24" barrel
    post front sight
    v notch mid sight
    3 position peep rear aperature
    possibly missing a hood on the front sight
    blued metal
    black painted, pot metal trigger guard
    2 threaded holes in receiver for scope mount, original, never used
     
  2. JohnBT

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    It appears to be another one of their many variations. Maybe it's an early(?) transition model of some sort. I'd guess the C- is a mis-mark.

    BTW, does it have the black tip on the forend of the stock? The listing for the Model 86 (tube mag) says it was on the later production - I don't know if they mean Springfield-branded production or Stevens production. (I'll guess you have an early gun and it doesn't have the black tip.)

    If the front sight is ramped it should have a hood; if it's a blade stuck in the barrel it shouldn't (I'm going on memory here, I'm not quite that old.) The guns with peeps usually had hoods.

    Having three sights on a Savage/Stevens/Springfield .22 isn't unheard of. For instance, looking at the 14th Ed. of the Gun Traders Guide ('90), the Model 83 was made from '35 to '39 and came with peep rear, open middle and hooded front.

    John

    www.savage99.com/data_sheets.htm has data sheets for sale. One listing is for: Savage 4C, 4CD, 4D, 4E, Stevens and Springfield 84C, 84CD, 84D, 84E, 56C (22 bolt action repeating clip rifle) - 6016
     
  3. Riss

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    What type of hood fits ?

    The front post is flat, like sheet metal and is on a ramp. As is quite sharp, which leads me to believe that it should have a hood. The stock is smooth, no checkering, and no black forend tip. What type of hood fits ? Will another Savage hood interchange ? If it will I'll just get one from Numrich to complete the gun.
     
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    Riss, Does the front ramp have a small clip, looks like a staple to hold the front sight in position? My Stevens 56C (Numrich sends me to 86C for parts) is fairly close to your rifle. The center leaf flips down when using the peep. My dad lost all the front sights (came with three he thinks) and I somehow lost the peep (I blame the wife). I have since replaced the front ramp with a Lyman green light rod. My dad told me he paid around $14.00 for it new in 1947. My son (and I) love this rifle, very accurate, even at 100 yards, any closer and it is boring.
    Have fun and if you ever come across another rear peep let me know.
     
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    Yup it has the little clip. I kinda figured that it was there to hold on a hood. I later found out from my buddy that he had the front hood, somewhere. And I did not have to buy one to fix the rifle. I had it to recut the safety and get some history before getting to shoot it and (unfortunately) return it.
     
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    Just reviving an earlier post. I just acquired the Stevens mentioned in this thread Stevens Model 56C- Stevens Buckhorn and it has the "black tip" on the end of the forearm and a ramped front sight with a hood. It is stamped "Model 56C-". It was purchased locally in Delaware by my neighbor's father in law at Angersteins Hardware prior to 1945 but not sure what exact year. I hope this will shed some additional light on the subject.
     
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    I have had a Springfield Savage 84C since 1966. About 20 or so years ago it decided not to fire but ever so many trigger pulls. I think the firing pin has rounded. I inherited this accurate rifle from my grandfather. I have ordered a fp from Dick Williams Gun Parts along with a couple of magazines. How difficult is it to disassemble the bolt and install a new fp? Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    I inherited my father Springfield 84C- It has a Cheek Piece Monte Carlo typ stock - maybe aftermarket with cross hatched engraving on the forearm end and the pistol grip. It has a blond finish. It has 1 rear ramp sight and an adjustable front sight with a grove for a hood. My father bought it new. I was made by Steven Arms Company in Chicopee. Massachusetts
     
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    Springfield 22

    Model # is not mis-spelled, mine is 84 c- as well.:D
     
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    I have a stevens that I bought about 48 years ago. It works like a new gun. I want a scope for it now.
    I am 70 years old and enjoy shooting My Walther 22 semi auto and walther 380 along with the rifle.
    My friend from Ft Lauderdale,Fla. and I just shot almos 200 rounds 2 weeks ago.

    Ernest Johnson
    Lakeland Fla.
     
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    I have a stevens that I bought about 48 years ago. It works like a new gun. I want a scope for it now.
    I am 70 years old and enjoy shooting My Walther 22 semi auto and walther 380 along with the rifle.
    My friend from Ft Lauderdale,Fla. and I just shot almost 200 rounds 2 weeks ago.

    Ernest Johnson
    Lakeland Fla.
     
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    I also have an 84C, a nice gun. I tried to scope it, got a Weaver N3 mount that came with a scope and fit the drilled and tapped holes on the side of the barrel, but it puts the scope way off center. I'm at a loss.

    All I'm saying is make sure you've got solid info on scoping that rifle.
     
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    Please bear with me on this as this is my first posting. I have a Springfield, J. Stevens Model 84, (There is no letter after the 84), and I would like to know any and everything I can find out about it. I have not been able to find info on just the 84. Thanks in advance for your help. Ron
     
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    Is this a schematic? I ordered the data sheet - should have asked first...
    I'll have to wait to see if I wasted my money.

    I love the rifle though! Bought it as a kid from a neighbor and had a gunsmith mount a cheap scope to it. I don't like the scope and would like to get another. The one I have is too small and mounted so low it has to be mounted too far forward to prevent the bolt from interfering.

    Just ordered a couple 10 round magazines for it (it has a 5 round Remington magazine now). My grandsons love it as well! Very accurate!
     
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