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January/February postal match

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Random 8, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. Random 8

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    Taking the bull by the horns here. These are the rules, this is the match, open to submissions as of NOW. If any glaring omissions are pointed out, I may, at my sole discretion modify no later than Tomorrow. Shoot it or don't.

    https://bisonballistics.com/downloads/nra-sr-1-target-200-yard-reduced-for-100-yards This is the target, fired at 100 yards, 10 shots for record. Write class, score, rifle used, ammo/load/shooting position for our edification please when posting results.

    Shooting position. Any field position with or without sling. Includes unsupported bench i.e. elbow on the bench, stock in your shoulder. No portion of the rifle may touch any support including bipods or monopods.

    2 targets per shooter, per class, per month. You may enter both classes. Winner at the end of February.

    Class 1. Military iron. Any military surplus bolt or semi or reproduction (AK, FAL, G3, M1, M1A basic) with iron sights. Sporterized guns are OK if they use a basic "hunting" type iron sight. ARs may be used if standard or carbine models with A2 sights or other open "combat" or hunting type sights. Sporting lever, slide and semi-autos may also shoot this class with sporting iron sights. Use your discretion. NM sights on AR, M1 or M1A rifles, and military rifles equipped with diopter or match sights should shoot in sporting class. If there is enough interest in these rifles, create your own class.

    Class 2. Sporting rifle. Any rifle you would realistically take big game hunting or walking varminters, NRA service rifles, tactical carbines. Use your discretion. Optics and match sights allowed, no greater than 6x magnification may be used. Same shooting position as military iron.

    Request moderator post as a sticky.
     
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  2. Merle1

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    I'm in !!! :D
    got MILSURP and commercial - plus ammo to burn !!! :thumbup:
     
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  3. Merle1

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    forgot to ask - is more than one entry per category OK, or do I have to choose?
     
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  4. Random 8

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    Yes! up to 2 entries per category, per month for a total of 4 per category. You can shoot both categories with appropriate rifle.
     
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  5. Merle1

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    OK thanks - I wasn't sure if both entries had to be the same rifle, or could be two different guns.
    Guess I worded my question poorly.....
     
  6. Random 8

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    Absolutely, you can shoot multiple eligible rifles in the same class. That's half the fun of milsurp matches, to get some safe queens a bit of daylight.
     
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  7. lionking

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    Next time I got out I'll put 10 rounds in a SR-1 target according to the rules, actually I went out today but was focusing on testing ammo in the Enfield and getting the 45-70 sighted in. Had a good day handgun shooting also.
     
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  8. lionking

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    Used the FN AR15A3 today , it was a windy day , I did three tries and this was my best I could do today. Kneeling position, I didn't measure the group as I think it is going by score? I need to get a sling I think that would have helped.
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  9. Random 8

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    Looks like class 1 score 85-0x. 2 clicks up would have helped, but hey, you're in first place. Thanks for getting out and shooting! And you didn't even freeze to death. https://www.amazon.com/AmmoGarand-G...&sr=8-21-spons&keywords=m1+garand+sling&psc=1 One of these (linked a 2 pack as I assume you have more than one rifle) will help immensely. There are many videos online on how to properly deploy it as a shooting aid. Much simpler to affix and operate than M1907 or match slings.
     
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  10. lionking

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    Beautiful temp today around 72 or 73 degrees , but windy as heck , got pelted with sand today when a couple good gusts came along. You won't see me at the range too much in summer though Florida just gets so frickin hot then and to walk out 100 yds and back to change a target just sucks then. Last time I was shooting higher more in the black with it I dunno why I shot lower today other than the wind I guess.
     
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  11. Random 8

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    Usually an unexplained POI shift is position related. Different alignment of eye, body, sights, target. Something people who only shoot off a bench will never see, and wonder why they miss in the field. The sling will help here. With aperture type iron sights, light vs dark conditions will also cause a vertical shift. I'd suspect both factors playing a role, especially position with the 7s and 8s leaking out the bottom.
     
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  12. Mn Fats

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    My Garand's rear sight aperture, along with other parts, has been nickel plated by a Veteran who used it for parades and cannot be adjusted currently. Say I know the bullets will land about 5" left and 2" high if I put my post on the bottom of the black on the sr1 target. Can I set up one target to aim at, and a second to actually hit? It's an old trick for people checking group size but does it count or do I have to use Kentucky windage.
     
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  13. Random 8

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    Sure, go ahead. This is mostly a trial match to get something going. All about participation. Shoot away!
     
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  14. lionking

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    I think light conditions come into play for me more than anything. I shoot best in morning or later afternoon or overcast days. When there is a bright sunny Florida day when that sun beams directly down in mid afternoon it makes it more difficult. That and I wear progressive lens now, so close up things are blurry to focus on front sight plus I have cobweb floaters in my eyes that jiggle around in the eyes as I move my eye so it takes extra effort for me to do front sight focus, but I can still see good enough at 100 yds to get it done.

    Actually I have been thinking about trying sun glasses I never shot with UV sun glasses before I wonder how that would work for me.
     
  15. Merle1

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    perhaps it is time to get a new sight - I wouldn't think that bright nickle would help either..... :uhoh:
     
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  16. Mn Fats

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    Nope, not a bit :D. There a bit spendy so am making due for now..
     
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    By all means, go ahead. I don't even wear clear glasses anymore (transition lenses). Brownish is better than grey/black for me (at the range), orange on cloudy days, when it's raining or snowing. Especially when snowing, but I don't think it will matter much to you. The orange ones also help a lot to see through fog or smoke, if of any interest to anyone. They are a must for driving when it snows and for driving at night; they make the aggressive new lights of the cars a sweet light green. I loose blue and violet with those however, so not for the artists I guess.
     
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    After reading the post I'm glad there wasn't a capital P in the title. I almost expected seeing videos of USPS employees "goin' Postal" at a range. USPS retired.
     
  19. Olon

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    Nice and cold here today. First time shooting 100 yards with irons of any sort so I'm happy. Also first time scoring anything. Way more challenging than I expected, this is pretty fun!

    Edit: Forgot to mention that this was done from a sitting position.
     
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  20. Random 8

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    Olon, I count 9 holes..5x9s, 3x8s and 1x7 for 76 points, Class 1 rifle, is this correct, or is one of those a double? I see the double in the 9 ring. Remind folks to score their targets. Thanks for giving it a go!
     
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  21. Olon

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    There is a double in the eight section. Quick question: if it's on the line do you go with the lowest value or the one that the hole is mostly in?
     
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    OK, add and 8 for 84 points. A line scores the next highest value. Standard procedure at CMP matches is to insert a bullet into the hole on close ones, or just give the higher value. Was wondering about that one, but the 9/10 line looks intact.
     
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  23. Olon

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    Yep just a 9. Thanks for the info, I'll be happy with 2nd place until February. And next time I'll put the class and score :thumbup:
     
  24. lionking

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    Nice Olon, was gonna go out today and it is a nice day not much wind, but the work week just dragged me down, and decided to relax today instead of rush to gather my things to get going it is a hour ride to get to my range and they close at 3pm so when I go I like to get a lot done. Was gonna test some rifles rested with some ammo that just came in Fedex and either try the M1 carbine or FAL for this contest kneeling or sitting and tomorrow is 70% chance of rain so maybe next weekend.

    This thread gonna get sticky at the top?

    Olon not that I did much better than you, but since you mentioned it is first time using iron sights if you didn't know just some advice focus on front sight for final picture before letting off the round, rear sight and target will be blurry but front sight clear (if your eyes are good) tends to be the best way for target shooting although someone may have another way that works better for them.

    I personally use a 6 o' clock hold on the target where the black circle is like a bead on the tip of my front sight it gives me the best consistent reference point although others do different and better.
     
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  25. Random 8

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    Put in the request to get this posted sticky through Feb. Forgot to add, whoever wins gets to organize the next one. Hope it's one I can shoot in, looking forward to doing one, and would not be appropriate to submit in my own match.
     
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