Discussion in 'Legal' started by GotGlock, Jun 28, 2007.
um, i think that troublesome priest you are referring to had a helluva lot more character and respectability than jesse.
Jackson is also an ordained minister. I think the Catholic priest is also the one who threatened the gun store owner during an interview with being "rubbed out" or some such attempt at gangsta speech which he later recanted. Character? Respectability? Words that are foreign to either of them.
"Poets, priests, and politicians
Have words to defend their positions,
Words that scream for your submission,
And no one's jamming their transmission.
Do do do do, da da da da is all I want to say to you."
He spoke of the the enormous monies being spent on building new prisons. He then made the remark "those prisons are being made to house you".
I've always wondered if there might not have been some truth to his predictions. Helped me to be steadfast in my Jeffersonoian resolutions.
I really wouldnt believe it if I wouldnt have heard it with my own ears from a credible source. take it for what its worth.
Jessie the Communist Jackson
(edited for language)
It was the third "protest" at the gun store in three weeks by these two. The first two got little news coverage and not much local "ink".
After two other failed (no big news coverage) protests Jesse and Pfleger decided to "up the ante" by going into the, as described by Jesse, "hostile environment of the gun store to try and reason with the owner to save the lives of Chicago schoolchildren".
The tough part for him has been that each time the news media have also interviewed some of us local gun owners about the store and our point of view.
Having a balanced news report, where the reporters remind the viewers that Chicago already has a total ban on handguns, is a major failure for him and Operation PUSH. So they are coming back again today, on a Friday when most folks are at work. He's got a schoolbus load of Operation PUSH volunteers available all the time anyway.
He was arrested last week because the store owner asked him, Pfleger and his bodyguards to stop blocking the front door and he refused to move so the Riverdale cops hauled him away.
Then they refused to allow Jesse to file an assault complaint against John Riggio, the owner, because Jesse claimed John pushed him away from the door. It didn't work because the cops were right there and saw Jesse take a step back on his own and claim that John had pushed him.
Earlier this week the mayor of Riverdale, an African-American woman who lost family members to gang violence, asked Jesse and Pfleger to please take their protests somewhere else, since there were absolutely no connections between the gun store and gang or crime guns and it costs the Riverdale taxpayers about $3,500 for extra police protection every time Jesse & company shows up. She also praised John Riggio fro running an honest and successful business in their community.
Now we wait to see what today brings on his fourth attempt to create an issue and a scene.
Jesse and company have been accusing Chuck's of allowing/encouraging straw purchases, where one person legally buys a gun for another that is prohibited from owning one. Or of buying a gun legally then selling it to a gang member for a profit.
Of course they don't have any kind of evidence that this has ever happened but that never stopped them from making accusations before. After all it's not the proof, it's how serious the accusation sounds in a TV sound byte that matters to some folks.
It's a ridiculous charge after Daley's ham handed attempts to entrap Northern Illinois FFL's a few years ago by sending out cops to try and do straw purchases.
Today, most gun shops in the collar counties won't even sell a handgun or semi-auto rifle or shotgun to anyone with a Chicago or Cook County address. I've been in stores and seen it first hand and I can't blame them.
Just glad I escaped across the border to Will County.
If your so concerned with the Christian faith why arent you going after the Catholic Church for hiding the molestation of little boys and girls? Or go after Ted Haggard for his hypocrisy? What about Fred Phelps and his Westboro Church? They are giving Christianity a worse name than Jesse Jackson yet I dont see you starting threads about them?
BTW who is Ted Haggard?
I'm not religious and believe that Jackson, Phelps, et al are all equally loathesome.
A skunk's a skunk.
The particular relevance of Jackson's loathesomeness is his attacks on the right to keep and bear arms.
What I would complain about is that he doesn't have a right to claim to represent people he does not represent. By the use of the words "Reverend" and "ordained minister", his actions are attributed to the Christian faith. They aren't part of Christianity.
Though they actually do give a bad name to Christianity, you're basically asking us to open a pandora's box. I can't get into those issues without getting into arguments that go back 1000 years. Unless you're involved in the argument, and versed in different Christian theological concepts, what most would have to say about it doesn't make any sense - and doesn't belong on this board anyway.
Suffice it to say, the "Reverend" is an easy mark because nothing he has done in recent history had anything to do with Christ. So in the spirit of unbridled irony, let me state simply: He may be a Christian, but he doesn't represent us.
Because they are off topic on this forum. Jesse's protests are gun related.
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