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Jewish members of the press

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by JBusch8899, Jul 30, 2006.

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  1. JBusch8899

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    I find it disheartening that certain Jewish members of the U.S. press take such a disheartening and hypocritical view of gun control.

    These individuals claim that firearms are a threat to the internal security of the United States, no longer being necessary and require immediate and total vanquishment.

    Almost within the same breath, these same individuals passionately defend Israel's sovereign right to existance and firearms are required to assure it's continued internal security.

    I wish these people would take a page from their own history and realize their own religious history can and will happen again if they allow themselves into being duped into another feelgood measure of false assurances of safety, regardless where it happens.

    Summary

    Guns that are used to protect U.S. lives and property = Bad.

    Guns that are used to protect Israeli lives and property = Good.​
     
  2. carl418

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    I could not agree more!
     
  3. Master Blaster

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    what Jewish members of the press would that be??????

    Most of the gun crontrol talking heads I see are not Jewish, in fact almost all are Christian.
     
  4. WR Olsen

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    It's not only Jewish members of the press who fail to see the disconnect between defending the US and defending Isreal. However well meaning they might be it's just not possible for them to relate their perception of the safe haven we live in to the reality of applied terror.
    They are to be pitied...but I wish we could open their eyes!
     
  5. GEM

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    I am disheartenend by our Christian President who proclaims his faith and trumpets the use of force but said he would sign the AWB if it got to his desk.

    I am disheartened by Robert Dole, a Christian candidate for president who scuttled the attempt to repeal the AWB.

    I am disheartened by George Bush I, a Christian - who quit the NRA.

    Your statement is quite naive as you don't understand the issue which is not whether governments use force but whether private citizens maintain firearms which are a threat to the state's monoply of force.

    Supporting your government or another governments use of force does not necessarily translate to support of the RKBA. Look at our Christian leaders who happily don't support the RKBA.

    That explains it for you. Personally, all Jews need to be able to defend themselves given the attitudes of a significant sample of Christians and Muslims in this world.

    Flame suit on! This may not be you as I don't know you - but I think that most folks who post how Jews don't support the RKBA want to generalize to a group that they already have animus against. Like I said, this may not be you - and if it isn't, my apologies - but it is the usual case on gun lists. Blame the Jews for gun control and the other ills of the world. :fire:
     
  6. PATH

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    What does someones religious persuasion have to do with them being against firearms? I would dare say it is their political views that most influence peoples gun control views.

    What about the JPFO and all those of the Jewish faith on this board who are staunch supporters of gun rights? I dare say the majority of liberal reporters are nominally Christian.

    I am very taken aback by this sort of thread.
     
  7. BobCat

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    GEM - you will get no flames from me...

    ...because I think you hit the nail on the head.

    What relevance does the religion of the "journalist" have, in this instance? Most of the media seem to go along with the line that individuals have no "need" for guns or self-defence, but soverign nations do. The few media people that buck this trend get excoriated and dumped on by the rest.

    As an armed Jew, I cannot fathom those of us who have, in 2,000 years of persecution and attempted extermination, learned *nothing*! I am not one of them and, although I know a few, most of my friends are at least as well-armed as I am. There are a lot of us who, when we say "Never again!" actually mean it.

    Picking on "certain Jewish members of the U.S. press" - without naming them or giving an example - seems like a cheap shot. And (without, I hope, invoking the "victim" mentality) it seems like a cheap shot at Jews.

    Have a great Sunday. I'm turning off the computer and heading to the range.

    Regards,
    Andrew
     
  8. Malone LaVeigh

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    There. Fixed it for you.
     
  9. SomeKid

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    In the case of Christianity, any Christian who has read the Bible knows full well that Christ ordered his disciples to be armed, even if they had to sell their clothes to do so. It is impossible for a Christian to be for gun-control. The notion that Christ was a pacifist, and Christians should never use force is hokey. That said, I would like to know what Jewish press members were referred to. Most of the ones I see who claim to be Jewish tend to be your run of the mill hardcore leftist dog.
     
  10. GEM

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    I rest my case. Thanks for the bigotry. I suppose it would be equally as correct to refer to claimed to be Christian right wing columnists as Nazi Pigs?

    Does that contribute to THR? Interesting when a columnist is disagreed with and they are a Jew - that comes up.

    I never saw a wave of Christian President Bush pledges to sign AWB?

    Get my point. I got yours.
     
  11. Preacherman

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    From the Forum Rules (linked at the top of each page on THR):

    I think this thread is a prime example of why that rule exists.

    Closed.
     
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