Malone LaVeigh
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Oh, my ex-mayor Ms Feinswine has been quite vocal.
John Kerry on Kudlow - Can't belive my ears
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cassandrasdaddy
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can anyone help with a link to kerry saying that? or a transcript? i got an honest john lover i wanna rub his nose in it
can anyone help with a link to kerry saying that? or a transcript? i got an honest john lover i wanna rub his nose in it
30 cal slob
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Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Kerry.
Pro-gun votes talk and bull$hit walks.
Pro-gun votes talk and bull$hit walks.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Guys, Kerry voted to kill CMP and voted to ban .30-30 ammo by name. He has one of the worst anti-RKBA records of any Senator in the past 40 years.
He outright lied during his 2004 campaign to try and convince gun owners he was their buddy.
I'm not in a position to say that Kerry did not have a "road to Damascus" moment; but I tell you what, I wouldn't trust him with a penny if I had a million dollars to spare.
He outright lied during his 2004 campaign to try and convince gun owners he was their buddy.
I'm not in a position to say that Kerry did not have a "road to Damascus" moment; but I tell you what, I wouldn't trust him with a penny if I had a million dollars to spare.
tbtrout
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Give Hillary time, She and Chuck are waiting with Diane and Barbara for the initial emotions to turn from sadness to knee jerk anger and it will be bandamonium.
No Kerry had no road to Damascus moment. But as he looks around at his party, which has razor thin margins in both houses, even more thin than last years Republicans, he is smart enough to read the tea leaves.
Many of those newly elected Democrats border on being conservatives. We haven't had conservative Democrats since the 70s.
Yes, Kerry keeping his flyhole shut is probably just a reaction to the political reality rather than a come to Jesus moment... but the new conservative Democrats may be something new entirely if they hold to their moderate to conservative views. The two party system may be back.
Many of those newly elected Democrats border on being conservatives. We haven't had conservative Democrats since the 70s.
Yes, Kerry keeping his flyhole shut is probably just a reaction to the political reality rather than a come to Jesus moment... but the new conservative Democrats may be something new entirely if they hold to their moderate to conservative views. The two party system may be back.
Kaylee
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Frankly, I don't care if he believes it or not.
That the zeitgeist has changed to the point that enough folks think "CCW good" and "gun free zones bad" to make even Kerry mouth those words in public, whether he believes it or not, is a huge step forward for the culture.
I really think that the Boomer's kids may well end up reversing a lot of the damage their parents did (present company excluded, of course.
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That the zeitgeist has changed to the point that enough folks think "CCW good" and "gun free zones bad" to make even Kerry mouth those words in public, whether he believes it or not, is a huge step forward for the culture.
I really think that the Boomer's kids may well end up reversing a lot of the damage their parents did (present company excluded, of course.
)-K
bogie
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Actually, I think that this is a symptom that some of the stuff we've been doing may be working...
The Democrats are WAY scared of gun control. I suspect that he was toeing the party line in the past, but now, when he literally has nothing to lose, and the party's overall position on the subject is viewed as a political kiss of death, he's stepping out a little. I think this is what he really thinks.
The Democrats are WAY scared of gun control. I suspect that he was toeing the party line in the past, but now, when he literally has nothing to lose, and the party's overall position on the subject is viewed as a political kiss of death, he's stepping out a little. I think this is what he really thinks.
SoCalShooter
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Sir I think you hit the nail directly on the head. They are playing possum. I was thinking about sending an email to the NRA to note that but I am not sure if that is a good idea or not.
LawBot5000
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I realize Kerry doesnt really beleive that, but for him to appear to oppose gun control is a very good sign. It shows we are winning culturally. Big cultural wins are always followed by big political wins, ESPECIALLY in a democracy. It is just a matter of keeping the snowball rolling and being patient.
My overall impression is that its a trap...
My overall impression is that its a trap...
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Adding my voice to this as well. Its a good strategy when you are playing to win and can afford to have a longer term view-- especially in a society with perpetual Attention Deficit Disorder. We MUST work to make people remember and to see.
John
Erinyes
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The only thing about the Democrats laying low until they get both houses and the presidency is that if they use it to go all out on gun control, they lose in the next election cycle.
Personally, I think Mr. Kerry is full of some brown stuff myself, but gun control HAS become a third rail, and I think a lot of Democrats don't think it's worth it anymore, despite their personal views.
Personally, I think Mr. Kerry is full of some brown stuff myself, but gun control HAS become a third rail, and I think a lot of Democrats don't think it's worth it anymore, despite their personal views.
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Sort of like his claim about crawling through the brush with his double barrel shotgun, deer hunting?
Now I know why I wasn't more successful at deer hunting. I wasn't doing it right.
Titan6
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I have not been this floored by the actions of a political leader since 9/13/01. That was the day I saw Yasser Arafat donating blood for the 9/11 victims. Of course the PLO was celebrating in the streets at the time....
the answer is simple - the democractic party has determined the gun rights community may be the best swing vote to win elections.
So they are choosing to pander to us. But not so aggressively as to lose their base, just enough to muddy the waters a bit.
politics as usual, they are just recognizing that a large block of gun rights votes could in theory be taken away from republicans by choosing to ackowledge some of the 2nd amendment.
So they are choosing to pander to us. But not so aggressively as to lose their base, just enough to muddy the waters a bit.
politics as usual, they are just recognizing that a large block of gun rights votes could in theory be taken away from republicans by choosing to ackowledge some of the 2nd amendment.
MJZZZ
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All Politicians Lie
Kerry is a politician and therefore he lies. I can only name a handful of politicians that would not lie to gain a few votes, what happened to integrity? I think it is a tactic to lay low and see which way the wind blows, then take that side of the issue and run with it. After reading a lot of blogs and articles, I think the trend has begun, people are starting to see that only they themselves can truly be relied upon to protect who they love. We need to hammer at the "gun free zones", it must seem like an invitation to a nutjob. Mike
Kerry is a politician and therefore he lies. I can only name a handful of politicians that would not lie to gain a few votes, what happened to integrity? I think it is a tactic to lay low and see which way the wind blows, then take that side of the issue and run with it. After reading a lot of blogs and articles, I think the trend has begun, people are starting to see that only they themselves can truly be relied upon to protect who they love. We need to hammer at the "gun free zones", it must seem like an invitation to a nutjob. Mike
romma
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Well we can certainly mark Mr. Kerrys' words and retaliate with them WHEN he re-flip flops...
WeThePeople
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It really doesn't matter to me. Even if I did believe that he wouldn't initiate a registry/ban/confiscation/etc., I still don't like his position on many other issues that are extremely important such as welfare, immigration, taxes...
In fact, I'm really concerned, given the current presidential prospects, about the future of our country with Nancy at the helm of the House and a middle-of-the-road president.
Our country is fast becoming a nation of dependency. Most Americans depend on the gov't for self-defense, money, morality, education, and even the upbringing of children.
It's time that America wakes up and realizes that the entire point of the founding of our country was to have a government that only provided the bare necessities and therefore left you alone to speak your mind, defend yourself, pursue happiness, raise your children, and be left alone to do what you want.
That means that I can carry whatever gun that I want (even a rifle strapped to my back), smack my kids for being insolent, drive my SUV, and not support the addictions of welfare recipients.
Mr. Kerry believes otherwise.
In fact, I'm really concerned, given the current presidential prospects, about the future of our country with Nancy at the helm of the House and a middle-of-the-road president.
Our country is fast becoming a nation of dependency. Most Americans depend on the gov't for self-defense, money, morality, education, and even the upbringing of children.
It's time that America wakes up and realizes that the entire point of the founding of our country was to have a government that only provided the bare necessities and therefore left you alone to speak your mind, defend yourself, pursue happiness, raise your children, and be left alone to do what you want.
That means that I can carry whatever gun that I want (even a rifle strapped to my back), smack my kids for being insolent, drive my SUV, and not support the addictions of welfare recipients.
Mr. Kerry believes otherwise.
romma
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HERE! HERE! This statement is utter brilliance We!
nighthawk2099
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It's a classic bait and switch. 
In a fight, you have your hands up to protect yourself. Your opponent says something that totally shocks you . You drop your hands in confusion, then WAM !!!! You've just been sucker punched!
Don't let your defenses down. Something smells like doo doo, and it ain't the dog.
In a fight, you have your hands up to protect yourself. Your opponent says something that totally shocks you
. You drop your hands in confusion, then WAM !!!! You've just been sucker punched!Don't let your defenses down. Something smells like doo doo, and it ain't the dog.
I agree w/ Kaylee. Just look at the response post-Columbine to the response to this.
No huge outpouring of support for more/stricter gun laws
No stump speeches from the usual suspects (Boxer, Schumer, Feinstein, etc)
More people open to the idea of CCW.
I think that post-Columbine people in the US gave over to their emotions and now Post-VT people have seen that their emotional response doesn't work and that the "feelgood" knee-jerk laws did nothing to protect them.
No huge outpouring of support for more/stricter gun laws
No stump speeches from the usual suspects (Boxer, Schumer, Feinstein, etc)
More people open to the idea of CCW.
I think that post-Columbine people in the US gave over to their emotions and now Post-VT people have seen that their emotional response doesn't work and that the "feelgood" knee-jerk laws did nothing to protect them.
Marshall
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He must have read ABC's poll we've been voting on.
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