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John McCain is a threat to the Bill of Rights

Discussion in 'Legal' started by MountainPeak, May 24, 2005.

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  1. MountainPeak

    MountainPeak Member

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    If you can't see it, you haven't been paying attention!!! He has become a sellout, popular with media, but a SELLOUT none the less. I wrote him, and if you give a damn about the constitution, you should too!! www.mccain.senate.gov
     
  2. Jammer Six

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    Yup, I'll write him.

    To congratulate him on his latest accomplishment, and let him know he has support in many quarters.
     
  3. Flyboy

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    In other news, scientists discovered today that water is wet. They're still working on whether fire is hot.
     
  4. javafiend

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    And in a related development, scientists have discovered a link between moon phases and the tides.
     
  5. SIGarmed

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    They don't call him the manchurian candidate for nothing.
     
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    "Threat"????

    The man is no threat. The man is a constitutional assassin.

    Remember Campaign Finance Control, perhaps the most in-your-face unconstitutional law in recent memory and he is proud of it.
     
  7. MikeB

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    I sent the following message to him. I purposefully didn't mention his anti-gun statements, votes and proposals in the past as I figured they would be dismissed by his office. Of course this message is likely to be as well. I completely disagree with Bush on many issues, however what is going on in the Senate is almost as bad as the Campaign Finance Reform Act. We might as well give George Soros control of the Senate.

     
  8. nico

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    not a fan of the Constitution I see.
     
  9. jdberger

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    I'm no constitutional scholar, will someone explain to me how the deal with the Democrats is "unconstitutional"?

    The way I see it, the Republicans got 3 of 5 nominees as sure confirms and didn't have to give up anything at all. And, they retained to right to filibuster should the balance in the Senate ever turn against them.

    Someone, please enlighten me. :scrutiny:
     
  10. Standing Wolf

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    Sad to say, I believe writing to McCain is a lot like trying to teach cats to whistle.
     
  11. Nehemiah Scudder

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    It's going to be interesting to see the smackdown McCain gets for straying from the party line.
     
  12. jdberger

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    Yup, for bending the Dems to his will, getting the 3 most controversial judges appointed and avoiding the ending of the filibuster which would have had newspapers all over the world squealing about how Republicans are changing the rules so they can TAKE OVER THE WORLD the Repubs are gonna give him a smackdown. PUH-LEEESE! :evil:

    McCain and 6 other Republicans got the Dems to think that it was their idea to give the Repubs everything they want. Brilliant!

    Don't let your dislike of the man interfere with the realization that he (and 6 other Republicans) pulled off a masterful coup and managed to save the face of Senate Republicans. :evil:
     
  13. Nehemiah Scudder

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    He's due a smackdown.

    He made Frist look like an ass, and Bush look like a slightly smaller ass.
     
  14. 2nd Amendment

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    Well that's an interesting Spin on it. In point of fact what we got was three nominees and a guarantee of filibustering of every nomination Bush makes for the SCOTUS from here on out. The Repubs rolled over and McVain, in his desire to damage conservatism, lead the charge. His political career IS over but sadly he's probably taken the Repub majority with him in 2006. He's certainly gutted morale.

    One more example of the Dems demanding their way, even when they have clearly been told to sit down and shut up by the electorate, and getting it thx to spineless Repubs and turncoats.
     
  15. rick_reno

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    Leap forward to the next Presidential election - your choices are McCain or the charming Senator from New York, Hillary Clinton. I'm going to strongly suggest you visit your polling place with an empty stomach - or at a minimum have a pocket full of those nifty air sickness bags.
     
  16. jdberger

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    No, Mr. Glass Half Full. What you got was a guarantee that three nominees that were going to be filibustered are instead going to be nominated.

    What you were going to get before was a guarantee of a filibuster of ALL the nominees. Then, the Majority would have had to enact the stupidly named Nuclear Option. This would have been challenged in so many ways. Perhaps a trip to the SCOTUS, perhaps the Dems could have run a groundswell of support like they did when Newt shut down the government.

    The Dems were going to filibuster the SCOTUS appointment anyway. They didn't win anything. The Repubs did. They got 3 of their more contested nominees on the bench. And best of all, one is Janice Rogers Brown. There is nothing that makes a liberal more crazy than a Conservative Black woman. :evil:
     
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    At risk of boring y'all

    As I've said before, Tocqueville [sp?] said, when he looked at our constitution back in 17??, something to the effect of "It will take men of courage and character to administer such a government."

    Now we have Dems of no character and Reps of no courage running the show. Dems want activist judges so that they can thwart the bill of rights mainly [= no character]. Reps hide under their desks and cave in to them and call it a victory [= no courage].

    A society based on individual rights lasts about 200-250 years. By then the voters vote their pocket books, MTV and glands. The anti-liberty crowd gets into control as they are about finished doing now and it's over.

    I wonder what the anti-liberty crowd such as Mike Moore, Hitlary, and the list goes on, think their lives will look like once their "dreams" come true? One nice thing is that when facism finally takes full control, all the supporters who helped usher it in will be the first ones up against the wall. Maybe I'll get to yell one "I told you so!" before I bite the dust.

    rr
     
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    Personally, I WILL NOT vote for either of those [insert lowroad names]. I don't care if I'd be throwing my vote away because it wouldn't have gone to a candidate that I could even marginally stomach. At least if I voted 3rd party in an election with those choices I have the feeling of betrayal that I have now.

    A local talk radio host described this situation (and a lot of political situations) pretty well.
     
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    McCain the leader BUT

    I truly believe that McCain is an Un-Constitutional senator with a Globalist agenda!

    But remember it took more than him. There were at least what 14 others so called republicans to jump ship?

    What happened to the darn Republican party of Newt?

    Why is it that the jackass party is handing the republicans their collective hats?

    The Socialist, know how to play this game, the so called republicans have no idea, or have no wish to...that being the case, the Constitution is gone!

    Heck the 1st, 4th, 5th,10th, and the second amendment are all but gone!
     
  20. Lone_Gunman

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    All this McCain bashing is somewhat ironic on a forum where the majority of people voted for Bush.

    The single worst McCain idea, Campaign Finance Reform, was signed into law by Bush. So if you voted for Bush, you support the very worst of McCains ideas, right?
     
  21. Henry Bowman

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    I hope not, but if so, we may as well shift the handbasket into overdrive and get us past that "awkward stage."


    Is is indeed interesting to see the left's view of this "deal."
     
  22. Vitamin G

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    I dont care who runs, I'm either voting for :

    1) Condi Rice, dependent on if she changes her positions or not before then
    2) Mace Windu

    A vote not voted is the only vote wasted. A vote for "None of the Above", votes my conscience.
     
  23. 45Badger

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    They do just fine looking like asses. All by themselves.

    As fiscally conservative, socially moderate, libertarian leaning Republican, I'm sick of Frist's and Bush's pandering to the far (right and religious) wings of the party. Those folks are not gonna vote for Dems, any day of the week. It's a waste/inefficient use of political leverage.

    Our elected "leaders" are wasting opportunities, money, and our children's future prosperity. The environment, the long term economic health of the country, individual freedoms and liberties (for everybody- not just gun toting, heterosexual, Christian, white males :barf: ) are all suffering while they chase their tails. UGH!
     
  24. Nehemiah Scudder

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    Well, they do if you actually follow what's going on.

    I'm talking about to the general population, who's not that informed. Bush gets away with pandering to an extreme side because nobody's really had the balls to point that out.

    This has shown pretty conclusively that there are Republicans who have issues with the party line, and who are willing to step up to the bat against the President and the Majority Leader.

    It was a big selling point of the Republicans that the Democrats were "out of touch with America". Seems like they're forgetting that concept applies to them, as well.

    One of two things have got to happen for the party to not get bit in the ass by recent events. Either the party has got to show some respect for the moderates, or they've got to squelch them.

    They've been fairly effective at the latter, so that's what I'm expecting will be the fallout over this.
     
  25. jdberger

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    Still Waiting

    I'm still waiting for one of you raving Constitutional scholars to tell me what in this deal was 'unconstitutional.' Please be specific for us non-scholars. :scrutiny:
     
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