Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by mtshooter69, Jun 18, 2019.
We love pics and range reports.
What I'm not willing to accept is his story of bad cell reception and inability to get word out. If he was FB posting, he easily could have posted a simple statement of "To my customers, I apologize but an unexpected emergency has left me unable to fulfill your orders at this particular time. I will ship firearms as soon as possible when the situation is resolved. Please be patient."
That would have eliminated all of this. At least customers or this one customer would know he isn't intentionally blowing people off. The final remark about people he's pissed off taking a number is also inappropriate. Things happen, and I doubt anyone would have thought that this circumstance could be what was slowing things down. And that's all I was saying earlier. We don't know. Well, now we do, and based on the reported activity, and explanation, the explanation IMO is no explanation at all, and his final comment shows disrespect to his customers.
Crap happens, I'm a magnet for it I know, but things don't look very good on the surface here. Hopefully I'm just wrong.
I hope it's all resolved. I hope the OP can enjoy his new gun. I highly doubt I would after all of this. The only reason for my post is to say that the demonization of the OP from the other forum was harsh and unwarranted. I see no fault in how it was handled by the OP. Just my humble opinion.
ETA no plagiarism intended 460, I posted while you were posting
Plan is to shoot it side by side with my 3.5 500, same loads, same bullets. Whichever one I like most I will keep the other will probably get sold (locally for cash only as I don't want any more interstate gun issues). It may take more than a range session to determine that.
Lesson learned here no more paying before receiving merchandise.
When did the flood hit? Was it the day he cashed the check? If he was able to remain active in FB he could have answered the posts from mtshooter69 on FB. I am not buying it.
I like the CB forum but I disagree on the way they treated the OP.
I find this post by John Ross on the other forum intriguing, dated 20 June 2019:
Yet he seems to have had a good enough internet connection, to have been able to binge watch the entire season 3 of "Designated Survivor" which aired on the 7th of June 2019 on Netflix and which he posted a review of, on FB on June the 19th.
If he had spent that time communicating with customers even by email, instead of watching Netflix maybe this ruckus wouldn't have happened?
In business a man has his word, underpinned by sincerity.
What I'm seeing is a poor show by John Ross and I hope he takes steps to remedy this.
Me neither. I perused but I didn't see anything you couldn't glean from THR.
Honestly if it were me, and based on Ross' response, I wouldn't even want the gun any more. I'd want a refund.
Apparently there is an unwritten or unknown etiquette to gun forums especially there which I did not know. CB may actually have something written down about it.
acknowledged the customer's concerns, my guess is all of this could have been avoided.
I like it over there as well, as far as the wealth of information.
I'm not going to just trash them, but I'm disappointed at how mtshooter69 was treated.
He obviously had a legitimate concern and was basically called a liar. Even after his allegations were confirmed, they still treated him poorly.
mtshooter, I hope you remain active here on THR. We try to do things the right way here.
ne of the most respected members, very knowledgeable Air Rifle did a group buy. He was going to Germany and have number of them custom made. Well about 5 or 6 guys lost all their money. No contacts, no answering emails and on and on. Last seen, he had a shop up in Conn. Folks might want to be more careful who they send checks to. Other wise you might be paying for a vacation for someone in Vegas.
They must have built the Bank on hill and he drove his boat over to cash it.
Same. They seem a little tightly wound. Especially the long winded fella.
There it is. No matter what this guys excuse was, he could of done what 460 said, but didnt. He might be a nice guy, like the CB folks seem to think, but that doesn't get my business. CS can make or break a company.
Op- if you stick around, post some pics of the gun for us when it arrives.
After reading this and the CB thread, you could not pay me to take one of these “JR500” revolvers. I’m sorry.
I also would like to point out, this guy’s response to the OP concerns sounds like a complete and utter crock of shirt, in order to maintain a rep with the other potential buyers.
I hope you get your money back.
If I was worried about looters, then the first thing that I would have done is get an expensive item that was bought and paid for out of my house or place of business and into the hands of a shipper.
Now that he has been found out, he ought to get off his butt and get the pistol to the OP.
Somebody said arrogant, I would add shady. Not a good combination.
Yes. I am an insurance adjuster and the most important skill I can have is contact with the insured. Return phone calls. Keep the insured up to date on the progress of their claim. Let them know if there are any problems or delays or a bid from a contractor. But what ever you do you keep good lines of communication. And sometimes its a pain in the rear but it goes with the job so just do it.
I am not familiar with the gun the OP ordered but I hope he gets it. If it were me I would just want a refund at this point.
Just my personal opinion. In general I think that many firearms peoples like us tend to post complaints about the most minute complaints. It's like someone buys a pack of 100 small pistol primers and it only has 99 in the tray and the poster is all out of wack about missing a 3 cent primer. So I tend to chuckle to myself about the petty things some posters post about. When I first saw this thread and started reading it I thought the OP was being a little too impatient but having read the whole thing my attitude has changed 180 degrees, the OP is actually being much more fair than Mr. Ross deserves.
I read this entire thread several times and also the one on CB and I think based on all that Mr. Ross genuinely sucks as a businessman. I'm a revolver shooter and I have several $2000+ revolvers and I can tell you that I would never consider even for a minute buying anything from Mr. Ross. Not even on a dare.
Firearms peoples are like a religion. We can have the facts right there in plain sight and still not see it. There is zero excuse for this to have gotten to this stage, I think all it would have taken was a simple phone call or email. We all get it, life throws curve balls but 2 minutes to assure a customer that sent you $1600 is not asking very much.
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