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Just bought a Springfield WW2 Mil-Spec

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by dsk, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. dsk

    dsk Member

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    I just picked up one of these in my seemingly never-ending quest for a reliable yet inexpensive "beater" 1911. I think I may have finally found it, as this is a LOT of gun for only $374.99 + tax. In fact, if it proves reliable I think it's going to be pretty sad, considering a lot of folks here own $1000+ 1911s that had trouble running at first. Looking through it tonight it appears very well-machined, with a nice throat job, excellent finish, and most surprisingly a tuned extractor! :eek:

    The trigger pull is a bit heavy and gritty however, and the barrel & bushing fit is GI-ish at best. Out of the box I won't expect stellar accuracy, but it should be a reliable bullet-thrower which is what counts.
     
  2. Tamara

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    That's a darn good deal; about wholesale from Accusport or Davidson's... :eek:
     
  3. Frenchy

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    Ya finally got one, did ya! :)
     
  4. sarge48

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    Love mine. Almost my favorite pistol.
     
  5. dsk

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    Agreed, I don't know how they're doing it. The quality's too good to be the result of prison or child labor, so either they're selling them at no margin to get them on the streets or there's a lot more profit in making 1911's than anyone's willing to admit. :scrutiny:
     
  6. Kestrel

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    dsk,

    Does this model have a pinned ejector?

    Steve
     
  7. Slowhand

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    That's a good deal, I paid a little over $400 for mine. I am also happy with the piece. Reliable, decently assembled, and fairly authentic. I wanted a plain jane 1911 to compliment my other guns. Amazingly good deal, especially for the price you paid.
     
  8. dsk

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    My pistol does indeed have a pinned (not glued-in) ejector. Good to see they aren't taking that shortcut anymore.
     
  9. Kestrel

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    dsk,

    I'm glad to hear that. Actually, I think SA is still doing the glued ejector, they just don't do it on the custom shop models, nor this model, for some reason.

    Steve
     
  10. WonderNine

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    Do the MS's have any MIM parts these days? You know me and MIM parts....:D

    I recall reading a thread a couple of months back on 1911forum.com regarding removing the trigger grit from mil specs...

    Also did it come with that safety thingy in the mainspring housing?

    Please report back with your reliability assessment when you get a chance to shoot it a bit! :cool: :cool: :cool:
     
  11. dsk

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    The ILS housing is present. However I may just leave it in as it's easily ignored.

    People tell me that SA's have MIM parts, but to be honest the ones in mine don't look like MIM. Normally they will have a "glazed" appearance, softened edges, and/or a sprue mark somewhere. Instead the small parts in my pistol all look like they're either cast or barstock. Before somebody says "yeah, right" remember these guns are supposedly completely machined and assembled in Brazil, where like the Chinese Norinco 1911A1 it may indeed be possible to make a cheap gun with barstock parts. I am curious to know the truth, however.
     
  12. Blackcloud6

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    I bought one two months ago and had it to the range one time. It works great and so far seems to be reliable. I'm sure its more accurate than I am. Very happy with my purchase.
     
  13. diyj98

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    I think I may have finally found it, as this is a LOT of gun for only $374.99 + tax.
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    "That's a darn good deal; about wholesale from Accusport or Davidson's... "

    Those guys are too high! Davidsons was about $45.00 higher on my stainless commander than several other wholesalers. I'm finding the Mil Spec Springfield for $334.00 wholesale. Either way though, he defiantely got a good deal. :)
     
  14. silent one

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    Dsk,
    This is probably the best deal out there for a .45 that I know of. I posted a thread on this sight recently under the heading of ''got a new Springfield mil- spec today'' if you want to check out my range reports. I am throughly happy with the firearm. I've run 400 rounds through it without a single problem of any kind.
    Good luck with your Springer. I hope you like yours as much as I do mine.
    By the way, I just got my copy of Shotgun News in the mail today and on the cover it has a picture of 4 Springfields under the heading of''Springfield Mil- Spec: the no frills 1911 is back''. I haven't had a chance to read the article yet, but it should be informative.
    Good Luck and be safe


    SILENT ONE
     
  15. WalkerTexasRanger

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    I, too, bought one recently. Paid $350 here at the last funshow. I thought it was the best buy I have seen in years. Once to the range so far, shot 200 rounds of 230 grain UMC and 180 grain Win and it functioned perfectly with both.

    I dont know much about 1911s, this is the first, but it ROCKS!!!

    Good shooting!!!!
     
  16. Kestrel

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    dsk,

    I looked at a Mil-Spec today and it had a pinned ejector. Maybe SA is going back to that on all of them...

    By the way, are you saying the WWII models are completely made and assembled in Brazil? I didn't know that.

    What are all the differences in the WWII and the Mil-Spec? I know the sights and ejection ports are different.

    Thanks,
    Steve
     
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    The "WWII Mil-Spec" has vertical slide serrations, whereas every other Springfield has angled ones.
     
  18. Kestrel

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    Well, I spoke to SA today. It seems that some of the Mil-Spec and WWII guns are put together in Brazil if they get backed up here in the US. She said if they are put together in Brazil, they get pinned ejectors, if they are put together in the US, they get the Locktited ejectors. She also said the Brazil guns used MIM parts as well.

    Steve
     
  19. gwalchmai

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    I got one a month ago at a gun show in Atlanta for $369 + tax. I've put 700 rounds through it without a hitch.

    The safety's really stiff though. Have y'all noticed that on yours?
     
  20. Mike Irwin

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    I got mine, used, but unfired, for $275 about 5 years ago. :)

    And you're right, it's a tremendous amount of gun.
     
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    No it'll just go to show us that again, the time proven design of the milspec 1911 is best left alone. LOL
     
  22. Sean Smith

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    dsk,

    Why don't you use one of your Colts you like so much as a "beater"? Wait, I answered my own question. :evil:

    Interestingly enough, the only non-Colt gun that Ted Yost will build his 1* custom guns on is the blued SA Milspec.
     
  23. dsk

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    I'm not sure I buy the Springfield lady's story. In Brazil it'd probably be cheaper to use cast components, as the molds for MIM are expensive. The factory where the parts are made has been making guns for awhile, and I just don't see them modernizing with MIM manufacturing equipment. Also, to build some guns in the USA but others in Brazil "when they get backed up", especially when just about every new SA says "Imbel, Brazil" on the dust cover sounds like a BS story for sure. I e-mailed Springfield, and my respose from the lady who wrote back (probably the same one as above) said she'd gladly pass on any technical question I had. In other words, I suspect they tell her, then what goes in the ear changes by the time it comes back out the mouth. Not trying to criticize her, but I know how information that's passed on gets all twisted around.
     
  24. tex_n_cal

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    I have one of the Mil-Spec SA .38 Supers. Yes I know there is nothing remotely mil-spec about a Super with a ramped barrel, white dot sights, and angled slide cuts, but hey, it was a cheap Super. :)

    It runs very well, whether shooting light loads, full power, or even fire breathing 9x23's (with its 9x23 barrel). :)

    dsk, how is the slide to frame fit? I have seen some like mine that have the right amount of slop, but others that seemed too tight.

    I may yet add a .45 SA, if I can't find myself a reasonably priced Sistema.
     
  25. Kestrel

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    ... don't know. But you can call her - Debbie in the Custom Shop.
     

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