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Just how innacurate is your Mosin 91/30?

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  1. bjamesM1

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    I'm fairly new to shooting and wouldn't consider myself any great shot. My 13 year old son and I shoot our 91/30 at our range that has steel gongs at 200, 300, 400, 500. We easily smack the 200 most of the time. Shooter error has us missing on occasion. He falls off my pace a little at 300, but I'd say I would be able to hit the target 6-7 times out of 10 (open sites).

    I can hit the 400, but I drop off quite a bit there.

    I'd blame my eyes and skills for 99% of any of those misses.

    Accurate enough and fun enough for me.
     
  2. TenDriver

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    I can bust clays at 200 yds with mine. Bulgarian? surplus ammo.
     
  3. bjamesM1

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    I bust clays at 100 and just go for the steels at 200! Too far to walk!
     
  4. 303 hunter

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    Look for a pre or post war rifle. The mosins made during wartime were hastily produced with little attention to detail. I have a 1932 hex receiver Tula that will shoot 1.5-2" groups at 100 meters. If you can find Polish surplus ammo, try it. The accuracy is much better than Russian.
     
  5. SlowFuse

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    Here you go 35whelen. You're lucky I had a nice day to punch a few pcs of paper. A little on the windy side but a very nice day today. This is from my 91/30, 1927 is the year, hex receiver. This is using Romanian 149 grain sitting in a lead sled.

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  6. morcey2

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    My Finn-capture 91/30 will do 2" groups easily... If I'm not the one shooting it. That's with Russian surplus 148 grain ammo. I'm thinking about getting a set of mojo sights for it and seeing what it can do with some handloads. I think most of the refurbs can outshoot the person shooting them.

    Matt
     
  7. smithman 10

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    Was shooting my 1891/59 today with surplus ammo. From a solid rest at 100 yards. My groups were, let's say larger than I would like -BUT I shot it just as well as my M-1 Garand from CMP (Danish VAR barrel). I shot both of them better 10 years ago.

    64 year old eyes and iron sights at 100 yds - hard to get tight groups but I believe the Mosin Nagant is capable of all you need out of a military rifle.

    And that Garand gets heavier every year! That's why I like shooting the Mosin carbine more as the years go by - nice and light.
     
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  8. TurtlePhish

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    Finnish rifle teams used to win competitions with unmodified WWII M39s.
     
  9. DCoke

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    No problems reaching out to 600 yds with iron sights either...can hit the gong at that range half the time and hit the gong at 300 yds 80% of the time....hit 200 yd gong 100% of the time.....that's no lead sled and bench firing....it depends on the rifle, the shooter and the ammo...I use all surplus....but that isn't a bad thing...until it comes time to clean the rifle afterwards...then I pay for it in elbow grease.
     
  10. shiftyer1

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    I haven't shot mine past 100yards because I can't see past that but at 100 yards I can hit a 1/2 gallon milk jug everytime.
     
  11. 35 Whelen

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    Nice group and nice rifle. Is that a 100 yd. group? No offense, but it seems to me it be darn near impossible to see the 1/4" lines or the little 1" square on that target with open sights at 100 yds.

    35W
     
  12. caribou

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    The highest scoreing Sniper in the World use a Mosin Nagant. ask 800+ Dead Russians how accurate they are, as well as in the Olympics, and Russian Snipers during WWII killed Thousands of Germas.

    I make a living with mine, and I'm very interested, because only acurate rifles are interesting.
     
  13. HavelockLEO

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    I have two Russian 91/30's ones got a sewer pipe counter bored barrel, the other a pretty decent shiney bore, both are pretty accurate. My Finns on the other hand, one captured 91/30 and a scoped M39 are more accurate than my 03A3, I do more plinking with the counter bored sewer pipe though, just cause, lol
     
  14. SlowFuse

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    Thanks 35. It's my favorite milsurp. By far the best shooting of the group I have. I have another 91/30 that averages 2.5 to 3 no matter the ammo or the time spent to punch a nice group. Also a 1944 that's about the same, I'd sayaround 3" at best. I don't blame you for not believing something a random person is stating on the internet. Its the best way to be I guess. But no fairy tales here. As far as yardage, it wasn't lasered but stepped off at 125 paces, which I figure is close. Its more like wherever a good level spot is to set my table up. And yes, sight post covers up a good portion of part of the target, but I guess you just learn to overcome stuff like that.
     
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    I haven't shot mine on paper yet but I can peg milk jugs at 100 yards so Minute Of Milk Jug.
     
  16. CZguy

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    After I got a M39 (Valment) I sold all of the other Mosens. The Finn's are a much better rifle.

    This way I can still shoot the surplus ammo, but with accuracy.
     
  17. crazy4milsurps

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    As much as I love the 91/30, for me it makes a better club than rifle. I've had 6-7 over the years and not one of them matched my Lee's accuracy.
     
  18. mortablunt

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    I thought Mosins were intended to be fired with the bayonet on. Just mentioning that because for a full power rifle intended to score long range kills, 2MOA seems rater inaccurate to me.
     
  19. jpwilly

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    Most battle rifles are 2-4 MOA and 2MOA is good for a WWII rifle! They weren't shooting paper targets after all.
     
  20. BemidjiDweller

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    My mosin's seem to be accurate, but I haven't done any benchrest paper punching with them. They are minute of old engine parts at 100 yards so far.
     
  21. MilsurpShooter

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    As long as I do my part she does her's. PU Scoped 91/30 from 1923. I think Hungarian surplus, copper washed steel case with yellow tip. Took her out after a snowstorm to make her feel at home, was probably about 17 degree's outside and she shot like a champ

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  22. mortablunt

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    That's right. Back then, accuracy was measured simply by whether or not you hit the guy instead of moaning over fractions of an inch in group spread.
     
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    At 100 yards mine is at least minute of German :)

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  25. Pyro

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    Mine has a shorter front sight so you need to aim low almost two feet to get a 'bullseye' hit at 100 yards. It's natural for me now, just gotta know how your rifle shoots. Another fellow at the range is big on milsurp rifles, always comes over to give me a handshake for leaving the original stock on it (even though it's non-matching and in poor shape).
    I can throw a fist sized group at that range given I find a decent aiming point below the target.
     
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