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Just one more step closer to cashless society

Discussion in 'Legal' started by JCOJR, Dec 26, 2002.

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  1. JCOJR

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    http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=1062379&nav=1ugBD4bY

    Kroger Testing New Fingerprint Checkout Technology
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    Kroger is testing new technology to add speed and convenience at the check-out.

    The nation's largest grocery chain is working with new technology called finger imaging. Even if you forget the cash or leave the plastic at home, all you need is your index finger.

    At the checkout, a scanner reads you index print and automatically bills your account. It's something that about 10,000 customers have test marketed so far. Its very popular with students, as well as senior citizens who don't want to carry cash.

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  2. nsf003

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    And one more step closer to tyranny.

    No way am I going to let them scan my fingerprints.

    What next, microchips? Digital Angel?:mad:

    nsf
     
  3. JCOJR

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    My thoughts exactly!
     
  4. Tamara

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    As long as it's voluntary and optional and internal to a private corporation, I'm not going to get my Hanes in a half-hitch about it. (Won't participate, either, though.) I'm pretty sure Kroger's won't send men in black BDUs with machine pistols to kick in my door at night if I don't participate.

    Those guys in that poorly-run corporation up on the Potomac, however, are a different color of horse entirely.
     
  5. bfoster

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    My family stopped patronizing Kroger some years back when they first required a "membership" card to get reasonable pricing. Many other families here in Morrow County, Ohio have done the same. Lord knows what this firm is doing with the data they are collecting on the purchasing habits of individual consumers.

    Bob
     
  6. Blackhawk

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    This won't affect me directly for a couple of reasons:

    • There are no Krogers around here, and
    • I wouldn't participate in any vendor profiling schemes anyway.
    I use credit cards at the grocery for the convenience, and I'm still fascinated at being able to leave home with a couple of bills, be gone for two weeks, and still have them when I return. And, credit cards are accepted at every decent sized store I go to anyway.

    If I don't want to be tracked, I'd have to use ALL cash for everything, and even then paying for hotels and airline tickets will get you tagged anyway....

    As far as I'm concerned, we've been in a cashless society for quite a while now, and certainly well before 9/11.
     
  7. JCOJR

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    Tamara,

    Like you, I'm not too concerned about an isolated food store chain.But, if this is deemed successful, our government will consider this a safety measure. Then, cashless transactions will be shoved on us like the Homeland Security measures. Give it a little time.
     
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    Remember that if it works 90% of the time at Kroger, then it's good enough for your self-defense gun. (Damn scanners can't even get the price of a frozen pizza right).
     
  9. rock jock

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    Well, I think I'm going to run out and cut off Bill Gates finger right now.
     
  10. Slotback

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    Reuters had a story on this yesterday. The store in Texas that they were referring to is not too far from my Dad's house.

    I think I'll take my business elsewhere.
     
  11. QuickDraw

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    At least when Safeway(west coast supermarket chain) started
    their "club card",all you had to do was give phony info.:D
    Be kinda hard to give'em phony fingers.
     
  12. Diesle

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    Cnn.com had this...

    Hey, 'they' just want to better understand your shopping habits and needs so that 'they' will be able to provide you the highest quality experience when visiting the shop. It’s all about customer service in a highly competitive market.

    Cynics...

    Diesle

    :p
     
  13. Dan Shapiro

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    to bad...

    ...this type of biometrics has already been shown to be easily faked even with a latent thumb print. Almost a YEAR ago! :rolleyes:

    http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0205.html#5

    http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/workshop/security/present/s5p4.pdf

    :eek: You mean the company selling these scanners would lie?!
     
  14. Justin Moore

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    Training the children. No fingerprints, and no yum yum's for you:

    http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?function=view&record=181

    We should all just shut up, because, after all, its FOR THE CHILDREN ;)
     
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    This, of course, will end the debate between my wife and me on whether to homeschool.

    My kids will NOT be attending public school. No way, no how.
     
  16. ZekeLuvs1911

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    Anyone here familiar with the Bible book called Revelations?
     
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    "The mark of the Beast"
    The implant chip worries me.
     
  18. rock jock

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    As a Christian, let me say that I am tired of people constantly pushing technologies and news stories into their pre-conceived notions of what the Book of Revelations means. I thought that armchair eschatologists would have shown some restraint after Hal Lindsey proffered his fantasy fiction of the 70's.
     
  19. 2nd Amendment

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    It's the Revelation and yes, our technology IS finally getting to the point of allowing a centrally controlled, cashless and utterly controllable society. All those who liked to predict Armageddon in the past always left out the need of technology, Middle East arrangement and communication in their self serving scenerios.

    Now we've got it all, or are developing it. World government and controleld cashless society are just a matter of time. Armageddon? Well, we'll see.
     
  20. ZekeLuvs1911

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    Say what you will Jock but I for one believe in the predictions of Revelations to our generation. I will offer no dates as no one knows when it will happen. I utterly respect your views on this matter of course. :)
     
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    Well, I think I'm going to run out and cut off Bill Gates finger right now.

    rock jock

    You are strangely sick- in a good way. ;)
     
  22. Justin Moore

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    It gets better...errr WORSE I mean.........

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...04923.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines


    :scrutiny:
     
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    I was at a furniture store a couple of weeks ago to buy a custom pad for my oak dining room table, and got my checkbook out to pay. The manager, who was taking my order, was asking me what card I was going to use. I said, "Check". He looked surprised, then said that , yeah, that'll work, but cash and checks are obsolete!! He still took my check. I don't usually carry very much cash, but don't like to charge things, and my debit card has it's limits. I was really amazed at his attitude.
     
  24. Justin Moore

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    I've noticed that every time I go into the local post office, they allways gently 'remind' me that I can pay with plastic. In fact they seem to make a point of doing it. One time I quipped "Cash is still legal right?" and get a strange look.......
     
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