bdickens
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You keep on believing that. I hope you never have to find out the truth....
Just tell it like it is, no rationalizations.
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You keep on believing that. I hope you never have to find out the truth....
Pudge
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Seriously, if you're in the know about what threats I'm likely to face and what I should carry to defend myself against them, what are those threats I'm likely to face?
No one can know--and that's the point.
Old Dog
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I have zero to add to this thread, or threads like this, other than I find them hilariously (with a somewhat tragic foreboding) entertaining. And oft wonder why some even bother carrying any sort of firearm at all, ever, with some of the attitudes and beliefs evident.
Pudge
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No one can know what threats they're likely to face? Are you more likely to see a stranger walk past your house, or find a rattlesnake by your front door?
You missed me. Are passing strangers "threats"?
Pudge
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You also didn't and haven't answered the question you responded to.
But to answer yours, it would depend on the environment you lived in I guess. I have lived where a stranger walking past my house happened all the time, and was no concern. I built the house I live in now, (and have for better than 15 years), and I've never seen a stranger walk past my house. Never. If I were to see it happen, or a family member were to mention that it happened, I would absolutely be concerned. I've literally been charged by more bears in my front yard than I've seen strangers.
Funny, this is good timing. My son is an E.R doctor and during our last conversation earlier this week, he had mentioned how young gang members that were brought in with a gun shot wound from a firefight in which they fired a few shots themselves are very respectful to him: yes sir, no sir.
I have seen people soak up more 9mm rounds and be able to run than I , as a native beer drinker, can soak up beers.
Which question was that?
What are the dimensions of what you consider to be your "environment"?
Do you actually believe that criminal treats to those who live in rural environments are likely to "walk past" on foot?
Criminals who have attacked people, burglarized their homes, and carjacked them in the rural areas around the St. Louis metropolitan area have almost always arrived in vehicles.
Pudge
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Let's stay on point. In reference to the first question about likely threats, I asked you whether you were more likely to see a stranger walk past your house, or a rattlesnake outside your front door. You then questioned why I would consider a passing stranger a threat. My response was an answer to that question. All I'm trying to do is illustrate how context can have a bearing on what is a likely threat.
sevt_chevelle
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How about this truth.
Who cares.
Who cares.
One more time: what in the world might that have to do with "likely threats"?
Pudge
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Got it.
A very interesting turn in the discussion.
Rationlizations and truth are very often clouded by perceptions and we have people here speaking about things they have no experience with, yet they want to speak with authority. The internet trap at work.
While there is a good chance that two firefights will be the same, and statistics paint an interesting picture, it will with certainty be a different scenario for any single individual. Each and every time. While posters spend countless hours on the internet, the time is wasted from training to be the best you can be.
And that is not only firing the gun at the gun range but spending time over a chess board and learn the difference between tactics and strategy instead of pointless discussions over semantics and who is right and wrong.
The survivor is the only one that is right.
Have you survived?
Have you thought about all angles, as a good chess player would?
Have you even fired your personal protection weapon in the last week???
What a waste of bandwidth to proof a personal opinion! Go out there and practice.
I got the range bag with the timer packed. The timer does not lie. I am off work tomorrow and will use my time wisely.
Rationlizations and truth are very often clouded by perceptions and we have people here speaking about things they have no experience with, yet they want to speak with authority. The internet trap at work.
While there is a good chance that two firefights will be the same, and statistics paint an interesting picture, it will with certainty be a different scenario for any single individual. Each and every time. While posters spend countless hours on the internet, the time is wasted from training to be the best you can be.
And that is not only firing the gun at the gun range but spending time over a chess board and learn the difference between tactics and strategy instead of pointless discussions over semantics and who is right and wrong.
The survivor is the only one that is right.
Have you survived?
Have you thought about all angles, as a good chess player would?
Have you even fired your personal protection weapon in the last week???
What a waste of bandwidth to proof a personal opinion! Go out there and practice.
I got the range bag with the timer packed. The timer does not lie. I am off work tomorrow and will use my time wisely.
FL-NC
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I do what I do and carry what I carry. Don't really care what others do, but if anyone wants to know what I do and why, I'll discuss it.
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Old Dog
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And that, in a nutshell, is why the rest of us simply say, "Good luck with that."
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Yup.
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The thing with that is... how many that screech “I carry XXX full size handgun, ten spare mags, and a sawed off scattergun shoved down my pants !!!” actually carry something along the lines of a snub .38 or pocket .380/9x19 ? I’d be willing to bet *far* more than readily admit they do.
You see, it’s also human nature to lie and to attempt to “keep up with the Jones’”
Old Dog
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Ah. Are you stating then, that some/many/most of those who state that they regularly carry <more than a mousegun> or a full-size handgun are actually lying? In a feeble internet attempt to... "keep up with the Jones?"
So the underlying sentiment in your statement would seem to be that most folks cannot effectively conceal anything other than a mousegun. Would that be correct?
What do you really believe?
I've got absolutely zero to prove to ANYONE ON THE INTERNET. I'm simply calling you on your BS.
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I’m saying that people succumb to the innate nature of “just barely getting by”. And there’s a vast difference in “can not” effectively conceal and “unwilling” to effectively conceal. Some genuinely *can not* effectively conceal a Glock 17 in their everyday life including work, due to dress or work requirements. Some are simply *unwilling* to buy an entire new wardrobe to conceal a Glock 17 when they can easily and effortlessly carry a S&W J frame, pocket .380 or micro 9x19mm.
If I feel so threatened that I feel it necessary to try to conceal a full size duty handgun, I need to either:
Don’t go to the concerning area.
Go get a rifle, and some buddies with their rifles, and some air support.
Go back to bed and forget about it.
That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
If one carries, they carry for the unfortunate situation where they would be justified to use deadly force to stop an attacker(s).
Whether that situation occurs in a "good" or "bad" area is irrelevant to the goal of stopping attacker(s) ASAP.
Am I wrong?
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Example rationalizations:
I live in a good area.
Nobody want to (volunteer to) get shot with it.
Better than nothing
The Extreme Nuclear 32 acp does bazillion damage to gel
Example truths:
It is the best I'm willing to carry (not work)
It is the best I can carry (work)
I have a physical limitation
A 32 acp in my pocket is the best I'm willing/able to do.
Who else would rather simply see posted truths > rationalizations
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