K.31 Swiss Rifle

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I have a Swedish Mauser, paid $75.00 for it and two boxes of ammo at a Roses Department store several years ago.
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Unless by "several years ago", you mean like 40 years ago, that is an INSANE price! If you paid that little withing the last 10 years, you should have bought 100 and made serious bank! In decent condition, the go for around $400 at the minumum. I thought I lucked out by getting my minty Swede in a trade for a $500 shotgun, but $75 is such a steal it's immoral! :what::D
 
Believe it or not, I have yet to buy a K-31! I do have an 1896/11 and a K-11. The action of the K-11 is velvety smooth, like a K-31, but the action of the 96/11 is a bit stiff, until there is live ammunition in it, then it's fine. It is amazing to actually shoot a 108 year old rifle, and the only indication of its actual age is the round butt of the rifle, the only unpleasant thing about shooting it. My K-11, doesn't have the usual beat up stock of the K-31, and the bore cleaned up to a new apeparance. In fact, the closest I came to buying a K-31, I passed, because the bore wasn't pristine. Even the bore on the 96/11 is excellent, so I wasn't going to get a K-31 with anything other than a good bore
 
And while one should always be skeptical about accuracy claims, the Chittenango Benchrest Club south of Syracuse NY did a K-31 match about six or eight months ago.

Best accuracy was a three-inch five-shot group with iron sights.
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I could totally do that.
At six hundred yards.
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...ok. Maybe not.

Mike :D
 
You won't smack it unless you're leaning in too close. Remember this is not a standard scoped Remchester. Your eye should be back a bit. On the K-31 you should have sufficient clearance to cycle without breaking the weld. If your nose is sitting right behind the bolt it's too close.
 
Here's my Swiss group. All very accurate. Since then I've added another K11. The K31s are very accurate but I like the K11s for general handiness and a slightly faster action.

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K.31 Swiss Rifle
Okay. So I went shooting with a fellow THR member, and got an oportunity to shoot a Swiss Schmidt-Rubin straight pull k.31

I'd been putting off buying one for a while, always saying, "Oh what about the ammo?" or "That whizz bang semi-auto is soooo much cooler."

Then, I shot the K.31. It is unequivocally the finest rifle I've ever shot. First of all it looks cool. (Not that that has anything to do with the gun's shooting, but it does, and the straight pull system has a finely cammed and machined bolt and fairly complex looking mechanism). It is put together like a Swiss clock.

I shot it at 200 yards on a gong and wrung it each time I shot. That kind of accuracy hitting pretty much at the same place, with a gun I'd never picked up in my life was impressive.

Suffice it to say, about $240 dollars or so are gonna be going to this weapon soon.

Now, I just have to get into reloading......


THIS IS WHAT THE OP ORIGINALLY POSTED. NOT WHETHER OR NOT LJ-MOSINFREAK-BUCK CAN SHOOT THE GROUPS HE CLAIMS OR NOT. ITS PRETTY POOR TASTE TO CALL HIM A LIAR IF THATS WHAT HE SAYS HE CAN DO. HE EVEN OFFERED TO PROVE IT SO CAN WE MOVE ON???

Stepping of my soapbox. K31s are EXTREMELY accurate and I love mine. The last time I was at my Dad's house in Minnesota I was shooting a sand bluff at about 150 yards and after the first shot I could easily hit the same spot over and over. Thats shooting offhand. I still need to put a scope on it to see what it will really do.
 
Thanks Jon in WV:

I didn't post that to get all the disbelief. I posted that as a rifleman to other fellow rifleman. I can prove it, but at the moment, I've got over three grand to pay off in accidents and fines, so AT THE MOMENT, I CANNOT PROVE A THING.

I promised you proof, and you'll get it. But it will be a while before I can shoot. I am a man of my word.


Now to reply to the post, and not the allegations of me being a liar:mad:,
The K31 is an accurate and balanced gun. and the Swiss made them to be accurate rifles, which, just about all of them, if properly taken care of, are. I did see a K31 that had a bad bore, and one with crooked sights. It's just that not everyone takes care of them as good as someone else does.
 
I have one, with tag.
the stock is dinged around the buttplate, but then again it did serve in the mountains and on horses (the unit it belonged to is tasked with transport over mountains with horses and maintenance of mountain passes and paths)

made in 52 and shoots very nice. With the GP11 ammo it shoots better than I can
 
I haven't yet, but I did find an address in a swiss online phone book that could be him, if he still lives in the same village.

Any idea how to find an e-mail? or did you use traditional mail?
 
K31 Is So Choice... I Highly Recommend Picking One Up If You Have The Means!

Mordechai, the K31 is, in my opinion, possibly THE highest quality military rifle ever produced and generally available as surplus. And I'm saying this as a serious Mauser fanatic and as also having a bad case of M1/14-wanna.

The manufacture of the K31 was given careful attention typical of the Swiss; they were nearly always housed and maintained carefully by the individual to whom they were issued, also typical of the Swiss; and they were almost all in VG to Excellent condition when returned to the arsenal for disposal as surplus. The milsurp ammo is as close to match grade as general milsurp has ever been, and the packaging and storing of both guns and ammo has been second to none. The Swiss climate and constant cool temperature/low humidity/near zero pollutants storage environment also contribute to the amazing condition of nearly all K31's.

Another strong advantage of the K31 is that it is a good house protection gun. It can remain clip loaded and accessible, in plain sight even, yet not be a hazard to children due to the rather great strength needed to take it off safe and to chamber a round. These were attributes recognized as desirable by the far-sighted Swiss due to intended presence in each man's home. It is to our benefit now as the next generation owners! Most intruders wouldn't have a clue in h*ll how to operate it, so you're somewhat less likely to have them pick it up and use it on you.

All in all, I say again what I must have said to folks a thousand times: THE K31 IS THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN THE RIFLE WORLD, BAR NONE!
 
If you live near Virginia Beach, VA, A+P Arms has them for 79.99, less without the sling. They are beat up and dirty, but clean up nicely.
 
FWIW cuz it uses the same bullet diameter as the Springfield, I use 150 gr FMJ for my reloads to feed the K31 and I,ve had good performance with them. So for the cost of one bullet type, I can feed 2 differant rifles. Happy shooting
 
Being Swiss, I have 3 of them.

My tightest one has a 7.52 bore, which makes it very precise.

I never tried anything else than GP11 ammo since its very available and fairly cheap (35ct a cartridge) here.

the average price here for this venerable rifle is around 100$ . But for few months now, arsenals dont have any of them left, so you must look private sellers.


sorry, but being Swiss, I had to smile at that ;)

The Swiss climate and constant cool temperature/low humidity/near zero pollutants storage environment
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precision. In Switzerland, its HOT in the summer, unless you climb at 1000m+ . In Winter it can get very humid... as for polluant, we have our fair share of it :)

With all due respect, I think everyone should forget all the "switzerland cliché" ;)

On this, you are VERY right !

The manufacture of the K31 was given careful attention typical of the Swiss; they were nearly always housed and maintained carefully by the individual to whom they were issued, also typical of the Swiss; and they were almost all in VG to Excellent condition when returned to the arsenal for disposal as surplus.
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exept that usually, after being issued to somebody, the rifle would stay with that person even after he stopped serving. Kept in the barn, or in the basement. That was happend to my first one, given by my grandfather. from that I bought 2 others (and also 2 k11, and 1 STG57 )

I love my issued SIG550, but I will never give back my 31s !
 
Agreed. I really like my K31 also. My favorite aspect, aside from accuracy, is the straight-pull bolt.I think they are just slick, and wish more guns had them. That said, wait until you try a Swede Mauser. That mistake will end up costing you twice what the K31 did, bt you'll do it anyways, becuase if you love the K31's accuracy, you wont be able to pass up the Swede Mauser once you try one. they are as slick as greased dog poo. I'm curious to get a good bench setup, and some good handloads for each, and test them side by side to see if there is a clear winner. I think the Swede will come out on top, but not by much.
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I have both and using current mil surp ammo, think the Swiss have the accuracy edge. I have a 1911 Swiss that is far more accurate than any of my K-31's, including one scoped and one with diopter target sights, and any of my Swedes, and I do love them dearly also. Both series are some of the finest military rifles ever made, the Swiss in my opinion having a better level of fit and finish, and a far better trigger. The Swede is the best, slickest of the Mausers that I have handled, and especially like the heft and feel of the M38 as compared to the Swiss. Like apples and oranges, both fruit, the K 31 and M 96 are both rifles, good but different.
 
maybe your 11 barrel is tighter than you 31s barrels.. and though, more precise.

But with both equal bores, generally the 31 is more precise due to the heavier barrel.
 
maybe your 11 barrel is tighter than you 31s barrels.
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The 1911s actually have a more generous barrel than the K-31s. The grooves in a 1911 typically run around 0.310" much like all other .30 calibers of their time, while K-31s have grooves that are slightly less than .308". Swedish mausers and 1903 springfields also have oversized gooves and are known to be exceptional shooters.
I think the 1911s have the advantage of much better bedding. The typical K-31 has the fore end clamped down on the barrel by the bayonet lug band. Any warping of the handguard or stock cause issues with pressures on the end of the barrel. The 1911 barrel is free floated and is isolated from the end of the stock by an aluminum sleeve that doesn't allow the barrel to touch the wood. The 1911s are less affected by sling pressure than the K-31s as well. My 1911will outshoot any of the 5 K-31s that I currently have, the only problem being is that the 1911 has its sights regulated to a minimum of 300 yards which means that I have to 'hold under' at shorter distances. Another disadvantage of the 1911s is that there isn't any way to mount a receiver sight or a scope without drilling and tapping- something I'm not willing to do to a 1911.
 
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I have a Swedish Mauser, paid $75.00 for it and two boxes of ammo at a Roses Department store several years ago.

Unless by "several years ago", you mean like 40 years ago, that is an INSANE price! If you paid that little withing the last 10 years, you should have bought 100 and made serious bank! In decent condition, the go for around $400 at the minumum. I thought I lucked out by getting my minty Swede in a trade for a $500 shotgun, but $75 is such a steal it's immoral!
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Paid $69 for my first Swede in 1991, not long after returning for duty in an AF Contingency Hosp. in support of Desert Storm. A nurse at our local hospital had gotten his FFL and was itching to sell something, and I had always thought highly of the cartridge. He had gotten a blueing tank so we "bubbaed it", reblueing the proper parts while I polished the bolt, and refinished the stock. I did not know about the immense interest and collector value that was about to emerge, so probably ruined and collector value, but it is a very nice looking 2898 with a fairly low 4 digit serial number and a fantastic shooter. I have since gotten others , generally 4-6 times that price, and have only cleaned them up a bit to preserve value. That first one is in original military configuration, only looks realitively new.

My first K 31 was $139 at a gunshow, excellent metal, typical beaver chewed stock. I carefully scraped and sanded retaining the cartouches, and revealed a very pretty piece of flame grained walnut. I started researching and found all of these interesting forums and learned about the C&R and rapidly acquired 5 more all in the$69-79 price range, none as pretty as the first. After all I had to have enough for two stacks.
 
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