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  1. TheeBadOne

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    k9 killed

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-crime/2003/oct/24/515778288.html

    Today: October 24, 2003 at 11:26:22 PDT

    Carjacking spree ends in shootout, suicide

    By Dan Kulin
    and Jace Radke

    LAS VEGAS SUN

    A man killed himself this morning after stealing several cars, including two police vehicles, getting into a shootout with Metro Police officers and killing a police dog, officials said.

    The series of five carjackings in northwest Las Vegas started just after midnight and police had major roads closed this morning for the investigation, causing a rush-hour traffic jam.

    The crime spree ended when the man apparently shot himself in the head while driving a stolen patrol SUV along U.S. 95, Metro Lt. Tom Monahan said.

    It all began with the carjacking of a sedan in the 1500 block of West Bonanza Road, near Martin Luther King Boulevard, Lt. Les Lane, a Metro watch commander, said. Two suspects stole the car by force and drove off.

    About an hour later, he said, the car crashed at the Suncoast. The two suspects got out of the wrecked car and one fled on foot, Monahan said.

    The other robbed a car from an elderly couple, then saw a Toyota Rav4, abandoned the stolen car and carjacked the sport-utility vehicle, Monahan said.

    In the area of Lake Mead Boulevard and Buffalo Drive the lone carjacker attracted the attention of a Paiute tribal police officer, who was off duty but in uniform and in his patrol car, probably on his way home, Monahan said.

    The officer approached the suspect, who pulled a gun on him, took the officer's weapon and stole the tribal police car. He ordered a female passenger out and drove off.

    The woman flagged down two Metro K-9 officers who were finishing a dinner break nearby. They saw the tribal patrol car heading east on Lake Mead Boulevard and gave chase, Monahan said.

    Between Buffalo Drive and Tenaya Way, the man bailed out of the stolen patrol car, which continued moving several hundred yards before it crashed to a stop, Monahan said. The man started firing at the K-9 officers with a gun in each hand, Monahan said.

    One officer returned fire and drove around to get into a better position, Monahan said. The other stopped and took cover behind his patrol car, an Expedition sport-utility vehicle, he said.

    When the second officer tried to get back into his SUV to move, the gunman shot out his driver's side window, Monahan said. The officer took cover again, and the gunman jumped into the patrol SUV and took off, he said.

    It's only the second time in his 19-year career Monahan could remember a patrol car being stolen.

    "We're trained to get out of our cars," Monahan said. "The last thing you worry about when you're taking fire is whether the car is still running."

    At some point in the stolen K-9 vehicle, the man shot the police dog, who was muzzled, to death, Monahan said. He drove the SUV onto U.S. 95.

    Other officers joined the chase on the freeway.

    "The evidence suggests that the suspect shot himself once in the head while driving at freeway speed," Monahan said. The SUV continued about half a mile along the freeway, then crashed into the concrete barrier, he said.

    The gunman, who had not been identified this morning, was pronounced dead at the scene, Monahan said.

    Monahan said the gunman appeared to have died of a gunshot wound in the head and did not appear to have other wounds, but an autopsy, to be conducted Saturday, would determine the official cause of death. Toxicology tests also will be done, Monahan said.

    No one other than the gunman and police dog was harmed, Monahan said.

    Monahan said it was lucky that the series of chases occurred late at night.

    "Were this to happen at 2 in the afternoon instead of 2 in the morning, we probably would have had bodies all over Lake Mead," Monahan said.

    The multiple police scenes caused Lake Mead Boulevard from Buffalo to Tenaya to be closed during the rush hour, as well as part of U.S. 95. The freeway was opened about 8 a.m. Lake Mead reopened about 10:15 a.m.

    About 8:30 a.m., police started letting people walk across the streets to the many shops and businesses in the area near the shooting.

    "I'm a little surprised that this happened in this neighborhood, but it doesn't sound like it started here. I guess these things can end up anywhere," said Dina Anderson, a nail technician at Destination Garden Spa, 7331 W. Lake Mead Blvd.

    At nearby Cimarron-Memorial High School, Principal Janice Rowland said as a precaution the school locked the gates leading to the parking lot during first period.

    "We did that so that we could make sure we knew who was coming in and out of campus," Rowland said. "Other than that, it's been business as usual for us, with the exception of a lot of tardies this morning."

    Stacey Fishberg, a massage therapist who works with Anderson, worried about how the street closures would affect the business.

    "We're going to be losing hundreds of dollars today. Fridays are our big days and make our week for us," she said.

    But the two spa employees said the thing that most upset them was the news that the police dog had been killed.
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    Sounds like one less really bad dude out there. Glad he didn't hurt anyone else. Goes to show what can happen if caught in condition white. :eek:
     
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  2. Bill Hook

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    I like how this thread is titled that a dog was "murdered" when this happened to be a police dog and not a family pet.

    Sounds like some bias is showing, to use a catchphrase.

    As to the article, it is despicable when any animal is killed senselessly.
     
  3. Standing Wolf

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    At least he managed to do one thing right.
     
  4. AUTIGER04

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    Our Local Police dog "Narco" was also "Murdered" in the line of duty. 4 Meth suspects were arrested and the shooter got 28 yrs and so many months in the Federal Prison System. According to the local Sheriff he will spend 85% of his prison sentence. Two others also got Stif prison Sentences in the Federal Prison system. 10-18 yrs. Im not sure about the other guy. In my neck of the woods they take this very seriously.;)

    http://www.valleytimes-news.com

    Might have to search the archives.
     
  5. JohnKSa

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    Not murdered, killed.

    Murder is a crime against a human being.
     
  6. Sergeant Bob

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    Yes, interesting indeed. As if someone was trying to elicit a certain type of reply in response to previous threads about "civilians" dogs being shot by police officers.
     
  7. Orthonym

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    Standing Wolf is right.

    One right thing done: A Schweinhund or "pigdog" was killed. Hope the critter didn't suffer too much.

    As one may guess, this subject is one of my hot buttons. I loathe, abhor, and abominate the very idea of training a dog to injure, or even interfere with, a human being in any way. I've always despised Bill Sherman as an evil man and a war criminal, but his men got one thing right when they were raping through Georgia:They shot all the human-chasing dogs they saw. (Even in one case a poodle, "because it might grow up to be a bloodhound")

    Bird dogs are cool, shepherd dogs and terriers are sometimes useful, but Rottweilers, German Police Dogs (the REAL name for "German Shepherds")
    and most especially Doberman Pinschers would, if I were king, all be exterminated. ( Doberman was a tax collector who bred his eponymous neurotic ugly monsters for one and only one purpose; to terrorize humans)

    Let's hear a cheer for pit bulls! If bred true, they'd rather die than make a mark on a human, but would (and could) bite the head from any of the Teutonic pigdog breeds.
     
  8. MountainPeak

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    Orthonym, dog gone. What a post!
     
  9. capt. Nemo

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    Damned glad you AREN'T King...or Queen. Court jester might be appropriate.
     
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    Uh, like the GSD who's sleeping under my chair right now, having worn himself out roughhousing with my two small boys? You'd break their hearts. Good thing you aren't in charge.
     
  11. Shane

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    Judging a whole breed based on bad individuals is misleading, IMO.

    Out of the dozen or so Rottweilers I've known or worked with, only 2 had questionable temperments. IMO, how they are bred (breeding two dogs that are not mentally stable is a recipe for disaster for example) and raised (beating or mistreated a "good dog" can make it bad) is more important than the breed.

    Heck, I know several Shizt-STu (those small Japanese Rat dogs) that will bite the hand that feeds it. Does that mean its a bad breed?

    Just IMO, YMMV.
     
  12. J Miller

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    Sorry you can't murder a dog. Kill it, yes. Murder it no. Even a police K-9 is just a dog.
    I'm offended and angered when anything like this is said. Especially since all things LEO have been placed in a higher status quo than regular civilian citizens.
    There is too much abuse of power by govt agents of all kinds, and giving the police K-9 human status is one of the biggest abuses I can think of.

    The worst crime anyone should be convicted of if they kill a police dog, is destruction of city property.



    Orthonym, I agree with you 100% when you say; "I loathe, abhor, and abominate the very idea of training a dog to injure, or even interfere with, a human being in any way."
    However I can't agree with exterminating all dogs of perticular breeds. Just the ones trained as above.

    J
     
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    Sorry, folks, I was orally frothing a bit when I wrote that.

    As a matter of fact, a Dobie bitch, Cricket by name, was responsible for getting me the best job I ever had. Her human had doubts about hiring me until she got up on my lap and started licking my face.


    Edit: I still reserve the right to make a distinction between the the general and the particular in any or all cases.
     
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    I regard the Police dogs by viewing that criminals both hate and fear them -so they must be doing something right, and if I had a pound for the amount of times the dog has found someone we all thought was long gone then one would be able to have a decent night out on the strength of it.

    Over here we have German Shepherds and a few Malinois doing general dog work, as well as some other dogs used for detecting explosives, drugs and other stuff (they can even smell out money).

    Hopefully the dead man will ATM being chased around hell by a frenzied pack of satans' finest eager to avenge their mortal brother.
     
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    Any creature that willingly puts itself on the lines to make the world a better place is A-OK in my book. be that human or animal makes little difference for me. They are doing a job that i woulndt do and for that i thank them and mourn their loss.
     
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    Happy Days.

    I get a warm and fuzzy feeling when i get a carload of dopers stopped = all pro claiming that "there ain't no drugs in this car officer"

    Then the sheriffs department shows up with with thier drug sniffing cannine = then they all start filling thier pants .... ;)

    These are the real "Schweinhund". Make no mistake about it.

    12-34hom.
     
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    Orthonym, I heartily disagree. A trained protection dog is no more than a tool, subject to its human handler's will, every bit as your firearm. And a darn effective one when it comes to that.

    What is your malfunction? Scared by a mean East-German Schweinehund when you were little? :cuss: :barf: :scrutiny:
     
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    "Bird dogs are cool, shepherd dogs and terriers are sometimes useful, but Rottweilers, German Police Dogs (the REAL name for "German Shepherds")
    and most especially Doberman Pinschers would, if I were king, all be exterminated."

    Explain to me if you will how this thought process differs from that of Himmler ?

    What an obnoxious, ignorant, and offensive statement. Let me tell you what would happen if I was king; you would be playing with your computer somewhere else.
     
  19. Shane

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    Well said, well said. I agree completely.
     
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    I think that killing a dog should be much more punishable than just destruction of property. Then again, I tend to like animals MORE than I like people.
     
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    I couldnt agree with you more. I thank it is a real sham that someone could kill your dog and only owe you a few hundred bucks in most cases. I look at it the same way as an irreplacible piece of property. You wouldnt let me burn every picture you have of your dead parents and only give you $100 would ya? Even if you consider them property they are definately irreplacible.
     
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    I also agree. Dogs especially become part of the family (unlike cats which mostly come and go as they please). A monetary settlement against someone that kills a family dog is an insult, IMO.
     
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    You know Orhonym.. that sounds an awful lot like...


    As one may guess, this subject is one of my hot buttons. I loathe, abhor, and abominate the very idea of building a gun to injure, or even interfere with, a human being in any way. I've always despised John Browning as an evil man and a war criminal....

    Single Shot .22s are cool, Over and Under shotguns are sometimes useful, but handguns, Evil Assault Rifles (the REAL name for "AR15s")
    and most especially Short Barreled Shotguns would, if I were king, all be Destroyed.


    Somebody had to say it :)
     
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    Hating things simply because they scare you or serve no practical use is a REALLY dangerous precident.
     
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    You beat me to it WheelMan. :)

    Bread knifes are good. Folding knifes are baaaad. :rolleyes:
     
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