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Ka-Bar BaconMaker or Potbelly?

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  1. lobo9er

    lobo9er Member

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    Anyone use either of these? Leaning towards Bacon Maker. Dont really need either but I have been getting the Itch to buy a hunting/camping knife. Any suggestions or info would be cool, Thanks in advance!
     
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    this is the potbelly
     
  3. lobo9er

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    this is the bacon maker
     
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    I kinda like the look of that bacon maker too.
     
  5. bannockburn

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    Between the two, I like the fuller blade of the Potbelly; maybe more so as an all-around camp knife. Don't think you could go wrong with either set-up though.
     
  6. Joe Demko

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    The Potbelly looks like the more useful of the two. The other looks like its primary purpose is for getting all stabby. YMMV, but I don't do a lot of stabbing on the typical hunting or camping trip. The things I do would benefit from the belly and wider blade the Potbelly offers.
     
  7. saltydog452

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    On either, is the top edge real?

    thanks,

    salty
     
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    The Potbelly looks to have better, stronger blade for the use you are talking about, lobo..
     
  9. memphisjim

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    Potbelly and not because I have one. ( not speaking of the knife)
     
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    another vote for the potbelly. Bacon maker looks like it was designed for mall ninjas.
     
  11. ArfinGreebly

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    Dimensions?

    What's the length on those blades?

    If they're over 5 inches, I'm going with the Potbelly.

    If they're under 5 inches, I could go either way.

    I have a Paul Presto folder with a two-inch blade that has the same profile as the BaconMaker, and it's quite useful for a variety of cutting tasks.

    Over a certain length, though, I believe I'd find that blade shape awkward for routine tasks.

     
  12. hso

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    The BaconMaker is for killing and as a purpose built boar killing knife wouldn't serve in a camp role as well.
     
  13. lobo9er

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    Mall Ninja, how? I appreciate you giving your opinion but I absolutly hate that term.
     
  14. conw

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    Because lots of malls have a problem with feral hogs...I guess this should go in the same category with my "mall ninja American Bulldog." :rolleyes:
     
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    USAF Vet may not understand the background of these knives and isn't aware that the designer, Steve Johnson, is a hog hunter who developed this boar killing knife through real trial and error testing on hunts. I met Steve at last year's Blade Show and hung out with him for quite a while talking about his knives and the number of hunts he had taken to finalize the design.
     
  16. ArfinGreebly

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    Design Considerations

    I would be interested in a summary of the design considerations that resulted in that shape.

    It has a kind of "aggressive look" about it, but that's an entirely non-rational assessment.

    I've seen other blades -- swords, usually -- that employ similar curvature, but I've never had any understanding of the mechanics that lead to such a design.

    Can you convey some of what he said about the process and the "why" of that shape?

     
  17. Mr Bernoulli

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    I was looking at these knives too and the baconmaker has that shape because it is supposed to be much easier for an underhand thrust.
     
  18. USAF_Vet

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    It's design and purpose may be very specific, as is the case with most tools. However, the 'mall ninja' may not understand the purpose of such a tool, but would still purchase the blade based on it's 'cool factor' / appearance, with no intention or consideration to it's actual purpose.

    The potbelly looks like an all around general purpose camp knife, and while that may not be it's number one intended use, it could certainly serve well in the purpose.

    Bacon Maker, while specifically a hog killing knife, looks like it would be right at home with the Kit Rae or Tom Anderson knife collection, and therefore would not, in my opinion, be useful as a general purpose hunting/camping knife, which is what the OP specifically mentioned.


    I fail to understand the reasoning behind this post. It seems highly inflammatory, not in the least bit helpful. Very High Road of you.
     
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    The Potbelly would have the most useful blade, the Bacon Maker would impress the 14 year old kids in the arcade.
     
  20. conw

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    First, let me apologize, because I agree my reply was inflammatory and not polite. And this is the High Road so I was out of line. Sorry about that.

    You can stop reading and move on - I take credit for my actions, and this ain't an excuse - or you can keep reading and see what I was thinking at the time...which doesn't excuse being rude but may help you avoid this type of situation in the future.

    Now, I'm sick of hearing the term "mall ninja." I think it is overused, unoriginal, cutesy, and trite. I think it creates an "us and them" mentality when firearm owners, knife users, and people with common interests like we have need to embrace the positive in each other in order to get political and social change we desire. That is what THR is about.

    I read your post - it's a string of words on the internet, with no face, no intonation, and no real context attached - and got a little bit irritated that yet another person took the time to type something that is all over this site, and that probably DOES keep 14 year old kids who think this knife is cool, from feeling accepted here. What's up with that? That's not cool USAF Vet and I think it is inflammatory. There are people you would consider "mall ninjas" on this site and guess what, they don't call themselves that. Do you want to be called something derogatory? I doubt it, so please extend the same respect to other people, even on the internet.

    My specific comment also hinted that you misunderstood the target audience of this knife...people you might call mall ninjas are a far cry from your average hog hunter.

    So I do apologize for being rude and I'm sure we would get along fine in person. But I think you need to consider going forward that you might be alienating people, too.

    No hard feelings.
    Conwict
     
  21. Pizzagunner

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    Without getting into the proclivities of people who choose knives based solely upon their looks, the Potbelly is the more versatile knife of these two.

    The sturdier tip and lack of recurve in the blade make the Potbelly a better camp knife. Recurves are difficult to sharpen. Overly pointy tip make even light prying an adventure. I agree that the Bacon Maker looks like it was meant to apply the killing blow to a hog. The stabby tip and the way that the recurve would facilitate a throat cutting suggests that. It won't be the better slicer compared to the Pot Belly, and slicing is the greatest majority of what a knife is tasked to do.
     
  22. USAF_Vet

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    Apology accepted.

    Whenever I hear, or read the term 'mall ninja' (or any other term which implies the same) I think of a person who has done everything bigger, better, faster and cooler than you. My brother's significant other is one of those people. They try to impress others with their knowledge, exploits, or possessions because in their eyes, their stuff is superior. Often it is attention seeking behavior from maladjusted individuals who simply do not know how to socailize with others in any other way. Either way, it gets real old real quick. I do not suffer fools, at least not for very long. :banghead:

    There is an 'us and them' mentality in everything, not just guns and knives and other High Road appropriate subject matter. It's simply human nature, and while we try to fight it, it remains. If you are waiting for us all to get along and strive to achieve political and social change with group solidarity, don't hold your breath. I don't say that to be inflammatory, but based on personal priorities, 'us and them' will remain. As long as people have opinions, there will be differences in opinion, which will serve to drive a wedge.

    I am not one to mince words or sugar coat anything. If opinions are asked for in an open forum such as this, I'll give it if I feel like it, or I won't. I try not to jump into conversations without having at least some knowledge of the matter, but sometimes I do and make an ass out of myself. :D Those who read my words are entitled to either agree with me, disagree with me, or seek further clarification. They are also free to slam me for my opinion or anything else. First Amendment still applies.

    There probably are. Heck, people may consider me one because I trick out my guns with things that they don't need. Do I get butt hurt over the term? Nope. Nor do I get butt hurt over 'armchair commando' or any other pseudo-derogatory term slung about with reckless abandon over the internet, no matter how well they aplpy to me.
    I am probably called derogatory things everyday. I've grown thicker skin because of it. If I didn't want to be called derogatory things, I would change my lifestyle to be more like those who did not approve of my actions, but then where would I be? Life is too short to try to please everyone, especially since it would be a fruitless endevor. I don't envision too many people crying in a dark corner because someone disapproved of their choices on a internet forum.

    Yes, initially I did misunderstand the specific purpose for this particular knife. However, the OP did not mention his intended use for the knife as hog hunting. He asked about
    I supplied an answer based on my opinion. My interpretation of the OPs question was more of a general purpose field knife. If he asked which was better for hog hunting, I would've kept my trap shut because I have zero experience in hunting feral swine with a knife.

    I am aware my choices, lifestyle, opinions and sheer existence may alienate people. There is no way around it. I refuse to pander to those who are overly sensitive about a wide array of topics. I have neither the time nor inclination to worry about which total strangers may be offended by any casual remark I make, verbally or electronically. Someone may call me out on it, and they may be right. In this case, it was you. This isn't the first time I've tasted shoe leather, won't be the last. :D

    Again, apology accepted. I appreciate that you took the time.
     
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    a man who trims himself to suit those around him will soon find he's whittled himself away
     
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