xxxleafybugxxx
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It's between these two for my ccw. What do you guys think? Both have good reviews and I've narrowed it to these.
Let me know what you think!
Let me know what you think!
Kahr CM9 or Beretta Nano for CCW?
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hardluk1
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I have 3 kahrs and have all been trouble free. But the bottom line is you have to decide for your self. Guess your wanting a pocket pistol?? Have you handled both? Can you rent ether. I would say if your experience level is low , buy a step up in size and iwb it. cw9, shield , sccy cpx-2, kt p-11, xds glock 26. These sized pistols are far easy to shoot well than the few smaller micro size models. .
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I'm very experienced with firearms, just new to pocket pistols and concealed carry.
They are both good pistols.
I own a PM9 that has many hundreds of rounds thru it trouble free.
Some say the Nano does poorly with plinking ammo as I have heard it prefers higher quality ammo.
The Kahr will be around four ounces lighter in weight fully loaded.
The Nano has no slide stop so if you have ever tried clearing a pistol that has badly jambed without one you will probably wish it did.
That feature is my biggest pet peeve about the Nano though.
They are both as good as the example that is built that day.
I say this because there has been such a hard run of production on carry guns the last few years you are going to get some lemons now and again.
Sucks for those that get that bad pistol surely.
Others to possibly look at is the Sig 290 and S&W Shield and Ruger LC9
I own a PM9 that has many hundreds of rounds thru it trouble free.
Some say the Nano does poorly with plinking ammo as I have heard it prefers higher quality ammo.
The Kahr will be around four ounces lighter in weight fully loaded.
The Nano has no slide stop so if you have ever tried clearing a pistol that has badly jambed without one you will probably wish it did.
That feature is my biggest pet peeve about the Nano though.
They are both as good as the example that is built that day.
I say this because there has been such a hard run of production on carry guns the last few years you are going to get some lemons now and again.
Sucks for those that get that bad pistol surely.
Others to possibly look at is the Sig 290 and S&W Shield and Ruger LC9
The Nano is a pretty tall pistol for a "pocket pistol" but it doesn't offer any more purchase on the grips than a CM9 which means that the extra .17" is from the trigger guard to the top of the slide. It seems to me that the Beretta has a slightly higher bore axis.
Kahr PM9 / CM9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.42 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 14 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Beretta Nano
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.07 in
Length: 5.63 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 17.67 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Between these two I'd go with the CM9.
Kahr PM9 / CM9
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.1 in
Length: 5.42 in
Height: 4.0 in
Slide Width: .90 in
Width at slide stop: 1.0 in
Weight: Pistol 14 oz, Magazine 1.9 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Beretta Nano
Caliber: 9mm
Barrel: 3.07 in
Length: 5.63 in
Height: 4.17 in
Width: .90 in
Weight: 17.67 oz
Capacity: 6+1
Between these two I'd go with the CM9.
Hunterdad
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I carry a CM9 daily and couldn't be happier with it.
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It may come down to this...
what will shoot cheaper ammo better? (Wwb) I've heard horror stories about the nano and Wwb but even the cheap 115 gr wwb are still about .40 cents a round so I can't afford to shoot 5 boxes of jhps every trip to the range
what will shoot cheaper ammo better? (Wwb) I've heard horror stories about the nano and Wwb but even the cheap 115 gr wwb are still about .40 cents a round so I can't afford to shoot 5 boxes of jhps every trip to the range
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I have a CW9 and would take it over a Nano any day. But I carry a PF-9 because wife beat me
and took the CW9
and took the CW9I looked at both the CM9 and the Nano after the Nano came out.
I didn't like three things about the Kahr CM9. It was a silver slide and I much prefer a black gun for CCW for lower visibility when you might have to draw it. (I know that the Kahr PM9 does come in black and has two mags, but its price was just outrageous). The CM9 came with only one mag and the Nano came with two. And even though the Nano doesn't have an external slide lock, (it does lock back after the last round, though), I do like its very smooth profile. And there is a workable procedure for clearing a round if it does jam.
Both of them have seemed to have some issues regarding functioning. Some Nano owners have had a problem with low powered ammo, like WWB. But the Kahrs are famous for their break-in requirement of 200 rounds. I just don't agree with having to "break-in" a pistol that should function properly from the factory. And even though I am sure a lot of Kahr customers have had a good experience, I have seen some reports of Kahrs not being very reliable as well.
So, I took a chance on the Nano. And I have been very pleased. No problems yet and I have had it for over two years, including using WWB. And I really like it. It does have a heavier trigger than a Glock does, for example, but so does the CM9. And I am used to it.
I didn't like three things about the Kahr CM9. It was a silver slide and I much prefer a black gun for CCW for lower visibility when you might have to draw it. (I know that the Kahr PM9 does come in black and has two mags, but its price was just outrageous). The CM9 came with only one mag and the Nano came with two. And even though the Nano doesn't have an external slide lock, (it does lock back after the last round, though), I do like its very smooth profile. And there is a workable procedure for clearing a round if it does jam.
Both of them have seemed to have some issues regarding functioning. Some Nano owners have had a problem with low powered ammo, like WWB. But the Kahrs are famous for their break-in requirement of 200 rounds. I just don't agree with having to "break-in" a pistol that should function properly from the factory. And even though I am sure a lot of Kahr customers have had a good experience, I have seen some reports of Kahrs not being very reliable as well.
So, I took a chance on the Nano. And I have been very pleased. No problems yet and I have had it for over two years, including using WWB. And I really like it. It does have a heavier trigger than a Glock does, for example, but so does the CM9. And I am used to it.
I have two CM9's, both have been 100% from round one.
Since my PM9 just ate up all varieties of ammo I fed it just to see if there was a type it could not deal with I too had no issues with the so called 200 round break in.
My take on that is they do use a very stiff recoil spring and they do loosen up after a few hundred rounds.
Mine was really stiff the first 300-500 rounds.
In my opinion a lot of guns need a mating of parts the first few magazine bursts.
Put a hundred rounds or so through one before you start sending it back.
The only issue I ever had with my PM9 and it was the very same one many others dealt with was the very inferior seven round magazine that came as an extra with the pistol.
I had several fail to feeds using it.
It's a paperweight now(it really is).
I only use the six round magazines and neither of the two I have has yet to have a malfunction.
Just to let you know the different types of ammo fired thru my PM9,and all of these were complete boxes without issue were...
S&B 115 FMJ
Blazer Brass and Aluminum 115 FMJ
Remington UMC 115 FMJ
Fiochhi 115 FMJ
Federal American Eagle 115 FMJ
WWB 115 FMJ
Magtech 115 FMJ
Winchester Bonded PDX 147 HP
Speer Gold Dot +P 124 gr. Short Barrel
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr.
Winchester 147 gr Law Enforcement
Federal HST standard pressure 147 gr.
Federal HST 124 gr standard pressure
Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr.
So understand a lot of this ammo was fired over a period of a few weeks from my new at the time Kahr without one problem.
200 hundred round break in it received but in my opinion the break in was much ado about nothing.
And that's my experience with my Kahr.
My take on that is they do use a very stiff recoil spring and they do loosen up after a few hundred rounds.
Mine was really stiff the first 300-500 rounds.
In my opinion a lot of guns need a mating of parts the first few magazine bursts.
Put a hundred rounds or so through one before you start sending it back.
The only issue I ever had with my PM9 and it was the very same one many others dealt with was the very inferior seven round magazine that came as an extra with the pistol.
I had several fail to feeds using it.
It's a paperweight now(it really is).
I only use the six round magazines and neither of the two I have has yet to have a malfunction.
Just to let you know the different types of ammo fired thru my PM9,and all of these were complete boxes without issue were...
S&B 115 FMJ
Blazer Brass and Aluminum 115 FMJ
Remington UMC 115 FMJ
Fiochhi 115 FMJ
Federal American Eagle 115 FMJ
WWB 115 FMJ
Magtech 115 FMJ
Winchester Bonded PDX 147 HP
Speer Gold Dot +P 124 gr. Short Barrel
Speer Gold Dot 124 gr.
Winchester 147 gr Law Enforcement
Federal HST standard pressure 147 gr.
Federal HST 124 gr standard pressure
Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr.
So understand a lot of this ammo was fired over a period of a few weeks from my new at the time Kahr without one problem.
200 hundred round break in it received but in my opinion the break in was much ado about nothing.
And that's my experience with my Kahr.
IdahoLT1
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I like berettas but between those two choices... I'd get the kahr
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