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Kahr M1 Carbines?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ohen Cepel, Apr 1, 2004.

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  1. Ohen Cepel

    Ohen Cepel Member

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    I see that they are going to start making M1 carbines.

    Has anyone seen them?
    Price?
    Impressions?

    I want a carbine. However, have been leary of the parts guns and/or the current prices I have seen.

    Thanks,
     
  2. JShirley

    JShirley Administrator Staff Member

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    If it says Kahr on it, it should be a good product.

    John
     
  3. Kodiak AK

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    Yes . Thank you Kahr. I have always wanted a M-1 Carbine , but finding a good one at a decent price is hard nowadays.
     
  4. JShirley

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    I haven't seen the Kahr Carbines yet but I have the Kahr M1 Thompson semi.

    They do good work.

    I would think the Carbine will be a nice rifle but the price might be high.
     
  6. Chuck Jennings

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    With a stated MSRP of $610, itsounds like the street pricing will be reasonable. Especially if the quality would exceed the IMI or Universal carbines.
     
  7. Devonai

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    I'd be a lot happier if they used some of the older receivers, but I'm wierd anyway.
     
  8. BamBam-31

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    Holy Cannolis.

    The only reason I don't have an M1 Carbine yet is I don't want to pay the premium they're currently commanding on the market. It seems like they're outstripping M1 Garands in terms of demand! For $600, you're generally not getting one in excellent condition.

    Now, if Kahr/Auto-Ord makes a brand new one for $600....

    Hide my wallet now.
     
  9. KaceCoyote

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    Wonder if they'll sell them with the wire folding stocks?
     
  10. DMK

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    Ooohhh! I can't wait for this one to hit the market. (rubbing hand together)

    Maybe a few years down the road they'll make them in other calibers, like perhaps 10mm. Just think what a nice combo a 10mm M1 and a Delta Elite would make. :D
     
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    On that spec sheet, it lists coming with 1 15rd stick mag. I wonder if thats a original mag, or just ones they had made before the awb. It looks like a nice product, and might be worth to get, and at least say you have a m1 in the collection, even if you cant get a original wwII one.
     
  12. JShirley

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    With millions of issued ones, why would they make their own? Especially this far after the AWB?
     
  13. ACP230

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    That would be an M1 KAHRbine, que no?
     
  14. rock jock

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    The two AO Thompsons I have seen couldn't run a complete magazine w/o major malfunctions. On top of that, they had a crappy trigger and weighed around 10-11 lbs. each. No thanks.
     
  15. MrMurphy

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    Ummm......all Thompsons generally weigh 10-12 pounds, as it's a Thompson and that's how much they weigh.

    M1 carbines are under 6 pounds. Of any type.

    Auto Ordnance WAS having quality control problems, and Kahr bought them out. The problems seem to have been fixed.
     
  16. Devonai

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    I'd be willing to bet that most of the parts on AO's carbines are surplus. Brand new, perhaps, but probably decades old. It sounds like for whatever reason they're manufacturing their own receivers, which makes sense as far as getting the AO name in the right place on the receiver.

    With 15-round magazines running at about $6/ each, I imagine the "stick" mags included are surplus.
     
  17. George Hill

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    This is interesting news.
    I've been looking at M1 Carbines for some time and have not found one that was satisfactory comparing it to the asking price. Looked at one that had not 2 parts with the same finish going for 800... and another one that was rusted to hell so bad you couldn't make out the markings and that was over 2 grand.
    :rolleyes:
    You would think that for something that was worth 2 grand, you would have slapped it with an oily rag once in awhile.
    Then there was the affordable onces... sticking actions... mismatched parts... ugly wood... poorly fitted wood... lots of home gunsmithing going on... can you say ruined? One even had hair in it.
    Hair.
    :confused:
     
  18. Nightcrawler

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    I have a friend whom I think the M1 Carbine would perfect for. Ideally, I'd include the Carbine, with buttstock mag pouch, a WWII GI-type pistol belt, bayonet in scabbard and sheath, canteen, belt magazine pouches, and a WWII GI-type "Victory Model" holster for her revolver.

    Ah, if I was rich....
     
  19. Devonai

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    I can't believe those prices. I got mine for $320 and it has a beautiful bore, good, solid parts (mismatched) and ugly wood, a.k.a. a shooter.

    Unfortunately the one of the bolt lugs sheared off during live fire earlier this year, but when you take into account the conditions that day (+10 degrees F with a wind chill) it's not all that surprising. For all I know it was the original, circa 1943 bolt.

    So even with the $12 it cost me to send it to Fulton Armory and the $75 they'll charge me for a new bolt whenever they get around to working on it, I'd say I got a good deal.

    At least I got a thousand or so rounds out of it before the bolt self-disassembled. :D
     
  20. M2 Carbine

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    I've shot a receiver and a big zip lock bag of parts to destruction, including 3 or 4 bolts and a couple barrels.

    I used to shoot a lot of M2 (select fire) and even though I am a big fan of the Carbine, it isn't that great a machine gun.
    It works fine and is right easy to control but it eats parts.

    The good part is the parts are still available and not too expensive but the price keeps going up.
    The second good part is the parts are simple to replace.

    One of my M1 extractors broke a couple weeks ago.
    Just a few minute job to change it out.

    If you intend shooting your Carbine a lot, you might pick up a few spare parts.
    Extractor and spring, piston and nut and wrench, ejector and spring, or maybe a whole spare bolt.
    (strange I've never broken a firing pin)
    A few spare parts might keep your Carbine running at the range one day.
     
  21. SanduneCC

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    Good one! :D :D :D
     
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    Maybe the guy thought it would be a good idea to have an M1 Carbine with a "hair" trigger!
    *rimshot sounds off in the distance*
    :D

    I'd like to see one of these Carbines by Kahr. Maybe they'll have one at the gun show in two weeks. Then I can go and look at the rusted version two tables down that costs as much as a used car.
     
  23. Fly320s

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    I inspected a M1 carbine and AO Tommy Gun at this year's SHOT Show.

    Surplus parts or not, the fit and finish on both guns were good.

    I, too, have been looking for a good M1 carbine. I think I found the one I want.
     
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    So if the MSRP is $610, what will the street price be?
     
  25. M2 Carbine

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    The MSRP on the M1 Thompson is $1041 and they are selling for a little over $800.

    Maybe the Carbine will go for a little under $500.

    The first ones out may be high until Kahr meets the demand.

    It's a good looking rifle.
     
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