Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by triplebike, Aug 1, 2022.
some thoughts on mine
1. Recoil spring is stout, slide is not easy to rack, make sure you can do it . (some people with weak hands might have an issue)
2. Mine was not really happy till I had about 100 rounds thru it. I seem to recall Kahr mentioning a break in period
3. When new all my reloads with starting to mid range charges would not function, nothing but Full power stuff would, after 2-3 hundred rounds this problem went away
Have an LCP, the original one. Don't like to shoot it much at all. I keep it around because of the very few times something like that is the only thing that can be carried. And, at this point, I'd never get back remotely what I have in it, selling it off.
I have some experience with Kahrs, none with their .380. Magazines are pricey. Paying more for the P instead of the budget line gets you a couple extra mags from the get go, which is good.
It would be easier to rack the slide if it wasn't so small!
Didn't think it would be an issue for your son but wanted to mention it.
I have maybe 1500 rounds thru mine with no issues after break in.
I wanted something small in CA and my only two choices where the Kahr P380 and a Sig 238.
You made the correct choice
All that to say that their .380’s seem to have more issues than the other calibers. That’s based on both my sample-of-one and the threads on the Khar forum (www.kahrtalk.com)
I have a friend who shoots his Kahr P380 in IDPA competition, in the BUG division, who's gun runs very reliability. At least for the 160 rounds we'll shoot during a monthly match...in burst of 18-20 rounds in ~30 seconds...he is feeding it factory RN ammo.
He hasn't mentioned any issues with controlling the trigger...the other pistol he competes with is a 1911
My P380's break-in period ended at approximately 150 rounds, and then it worked flawlessly** until about round 275. Then the gun's breakdown period began . . . and never ended.
**Should note that the barrel was replaced after the first 20 shots or so due to the worst cut crown I've ever seen, which originally caused the gun to pattern like a shotgun at 15 yards.
I did think about the CW380 years ago, but went another way. I can't think of a reason I'd go with a Kahr .380 these days unless I found the trigger that much better and recoil more manageable.
PS - MY range has FMJ ammo at $35 / 50 rds, damn!
Wow, that's nice! Hopefully it's one that works well. Good to see that he won't be out anything but the cost of ammo if it doesn't.
I've always been envious of the folks with the unproblematic P380s/CW380s. I bought mine back in 2010 or 2011. I wonder if Kahr ever introduced any tweaks to the design along the way.
I had a CW40 that was still problematic after the 200 round break-in so down the road it went. Waited awhile until the CM9 came out and decided to give it a try. This one was great from the start with a DA trigger that rival some of my best S&W revolvers!
Have thought about getting a CW380 to go with it but I have heard varying reports of trouble with it, so much so that I'm hesitant to buy one. That and the fact that I recently bought a Ruger LCP MAX has kind of taken the little Kahr off the table for now.
Hope everything checks out okay with your son's P380. Sounds like you can't go wrong, especially with that 30 day warranty!
If you MUST have a smaller gun, things like the LCP are more advantageous.
If starting over, I'd probably do Shields, also. Rounder, and lighter, and the EZ gets around the racking issues of small guns very nicely.
Can’t say I agree with that at all. The P380 is much smaller and lighter than the PM9, and it barely weighs more than an LCP. The P380’s form factor is perfect for pocket carry, as far as I’m concerned. And it’s just substantial enough in the grip that it’s much easier (for me) to shoot quickly and accurately at 15 yards than an LCP.
Use a hammer and a punch on the magazine floor plate. Magazine sitting flat on your work bench, follower pointing straight up, punch the folded steel plate tighter. Otherwise you'll be picking up all of your ammo, off the floor of a grocery store. Grind excess material off your reload mags plates. Some goofy mags may be hard to seat, under pressure.
Use a Kydex pocket holster, or a Crossbreed Minutuk.
A P380 is heavy and boxy?
A hair less than 10oz without a mag is heavy?
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