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Kansas CCW legislation announced!

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Devon, Jan 21, 2006.

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  1. Devon

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  2. Robert J McElwain

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    About time. Let's hope, this time, there are enough votes to override. That means the RINOs from here in Johnson County and those around Lawrence will have to be pushed hard to get with the program. Kansas already is a laughing stock over our Board of Education. I hope we're not the last State in the nation to pass CCW, but it's going to be close.

    Bob
     
  3. xd45gaper

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    what are the Kansan people saying about this??

    being from KS and I could see alot of people thinking this is a bad idea. (i hope they do pass it because i would like to carry when i go home lol)
     
  4. insidious_calm

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    Watch the topeka CJ. If I get enough cash rounded up, we have a special ad planned for the governess. If she vetoes this again we'll have enough leverage to overide it this time. Non stop campaigning, calling talk shows, and twisting arms is slowly paying off. Tell everyone you know to call their senators and representatives. Call them often, hell call every week. Push push push! We can win it this time.


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  5. english kanigit

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    Alrighty! Lets punch it through...











    Somebody please smack the governess and send her back to ohio while we're at it.
     
  6. Robert J McElwain

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    It's not all her fault. There are a lot of so-called Republicans that had to be on her side to sustain her veto. Also, her Republican predecessor did the same damn thing.

    Too many Kansans automatically vote Republican without looking to see what that individual candidate stands for. As a consequence, we get a lot of RINOs. We also get a lot of one issue politicians who are only there to fight alcohol consumption or abortion or the school system and beyond that, they're clueless.

    I'd prefer an intelligent thinking Libertarian than a brain-dead Republican or Democrat.

    Bob
     
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  7. xd45gaper

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    any one ever read "whats the matter with Kansas?" its a good read about the political mess in KS
     
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    Well to be honest, the problem in Kansas is two-fold, stupidity and laziness. Take the last governors race. A lot of republicans had to vote for her to reach the results we got. That's just plain stupid. Tim Shallenburger was painted to be some hardcore right winger, when in fact it's not true. Socially he was conservative, but fiscally he was a moderate. He had a voting record to prove that. Too many lazy and stupid Kansans believed the demcratic tripe about him. He co-wrote and co-sponsored the first CCW attempt. Had he been elected we would have CCW now.

    Those of you who voted for Kathleen "blanco" Sebelius on the other hand deserve exactly what you are getting. She is a socialist. She has no leadership skills, and the only time anything ever gets accomplished is by the vote of some group of schmucks appointed to some committee by her, because she didn't have the courage to actually take a leadership role in anything. She has been a horrible governor for us. Jobs are basically stagnant, while in other states they are growing. Eminent domain abuse runs rampantly unchecked, and she doesn't have the courage to put the state supremes in check on education.

    To make matters worse, my representative has withdrawn from the governors race and will be retiring. I don't have to call Doug Mays to tell him how I want him to vote, I call him to say keep up the good work. Which brings up the laziness thing again. If half of the people I talk to actually called their reps as much as they say we wouldn't be having this discusiion now. Oh, and for the record the sponsor of the last CCW attempt, Candy Ruff, is a democrat, and the wife of a LEO. This is a people problem, specifically laziness and stupidity.


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  9. Monkeyleg

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    How organized are the supporters of the bill? How involved is the NRA?

    I'd suggest you contact the folks at MN CCRN and ask for ideas. They mounted a very effective campaign, and they've been a lot of help to those of us in WI who've been fighting for CCW.
     
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    Easy buddy. I was still in high school... too young and too stupid to know anything at the time. :rolleyes: (plus I wasn't 18 at the yet)



    As far as the ignorant, one-issue voters you're right on the money. :uhoh:
     
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    The CCW people in Kansas are about as organized as the Republican party is here. And that's bad. In this State, the only issues that the Republicans seem to be interested in are abortion, Intelligent Design and screwing up the education system.

    I've talked to the NRA and they may be willing to get on it. After all, there are only a handful of States left to do battle in. They've won all the rest.

    Bob
     
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    The thesis of which was "Kansas is not liberal enough!" :scrutiny:



    Good luck Kansas ... don't expect you'll get it (and even if you do I'm not moving back :p ).
     
  13. Robert J McElwain

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    The problem is that Kansas is polarized. We've got extreme liberals that make Berkley look like Genghis Khan territory. And we've got Conservatives that could shame the Ayatollahs. And most of us in the middle have no voice.:banghead:

    But there are some stubborn types, like me, that want to stay and fix it. God help us.:what:

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    Good luck, Kansas. I might have to drive across your state someday.
     
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    Good luck Kansas! We're pulling for you. Your govern-miss should talk to our govern-miss. She vowed to do anything and everything to stop our legislation from becoming law. She was AG at the time. Now that it it has been law for a while and she is top dawg, she says she's glad she was unable to block it, as our crime stats have taken a dive, and we did not become another 1800s Tombstone. Well, duh. Seems to happen everywhere. Funny huh?:uhoh:
     
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    The CCW folks over here in MO are pulling for KS. I get sick and tired of unloading my truck, pockets, and holsters for the rare occasion I have to go to Cabelas. Last time I checked, KS didn't even have a peacable journey provision on the books:rolleyes:
     
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    A funny? thing seems to be happening. As you all know, Missouri recently passed CCW. And, it seems, that in the last several months the level of violent gun crimes right across the State line, here in Kansas, is going up. The BGs are driving over to where it's safer to do their thing. I'm assuming that some of our bleeding heart politicians are seeing this as well and may get the hint. I'm sure my neighbors are aware of it.

    I suspect some people who, a year or two ago, thought self defense meant calling 911 are beginning to have new thoughts. I know I'm getting asked more gun questions in the last couple of months than I've had in the last 5 years.

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    Does it have reciprocity/recognition provisions?
     
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    My question is whether the CCW tsunami sweeping the nation will make this a broader issue, and help us in other states? My gut is that it will, and having the discussion in KS helps us stuck here in MD.
     
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    Call your Legislators NOW

    My Fellow Kansans,

    Call or Write your Legislators and let them know you want them to support this legislation.

    This website will tell you who your legislators are, if you don't know already:

    http://www.ku.edu/pri/ksdata/vote/

    Please Do it Today.
     
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    Anyone got a link to the actual bill?

    I'd love to read it ... I felt real good for Nebraska and their recent possible victory until I read the actual bill (for chrissake you can't CCW to the bank? Whats the point of being able to CCW everywhere except to where you'll be carrying large amounts of cash!? That and the asinine "no carry in bars and/or restaurants that serve alcohol" crap.).
     
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    I'm simply amazed.......

    that anyone (especially someone claiming to be a Republican) still opposes concealed carry by law abiding responsible citizens. After 10 or so years of CCW licensing all over the country, and none of the predicted bloodshed, plus lower crime rates, it's time for everyone to admit it's a sound idea.
    Good luck Kansas!


    I Thank the Lord I live in Texas.
     
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    So which bill is better- Nebraska's or Kansas?
     
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    Sebelius spokeswoman Nicole Corcoran said the governor hasn’t changed her position, which is to allow only retired law enforcement officers to carry a concealed gun

    I'm so sick of this position. Only the Uber-Class of LEO's and Former LEo's are qualified to to carry.
     
  25. Kamicosmos

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    Good luck KS! I, too, am tired of having to avoid the state, or leave my gun at home to visit friends and Cabela's.

    I think they have a site www.kansascarry.com, sistersite to missouricarry.com

    At mo carry, there is a link to the actual bill. It's not a great bill, but you gotta start somewhere. I'm pretty sure that it does have Full Recipriocity though, just like MO has. So that's good at least. I didn't read the bill, so I don't know anything about age, training requirements, etc.
     
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