Keeping it real. Pet peeve time.

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Do not use your rifle scope to see who is walking up the trail..... Grrrrrrrr...... NOT COOL!

If someone sees me looking at them through my scope, that will be the least of their worries, because the sheriff and/or game warden will be on the way to arrest them for trespassing.:fire:
 
Actually, if I had a gun pointed at me, the sheriff would be the least of my worries. My greatest worry would be the gun pointed at me. Do not point a gun at anything you do not intend to destroy... I hope you don't destroy trespassers. Accidents happen and people make mistakes.

And it may be a game warden or deputy you are spotting. You know they go check hunters in the woods, right? They don't like being spotted anymore than I do.
 
Some people have a really interesting reaction to people pointing guns at them.


They point guns back.


Think about that. Even if you are dealing with a trespasser, do you really think that's a good path to go down?


Do not point guns at things you do not intend to put holes in - to destroy, to kill. That includes people who are not currently threatening you, even if they are stinking trespassers, poachers, revenuers (J/K), drug mules, or other such undesirables.
 
What would you suggest, wait for them to draw so you can really test your skills?

There is a dynamic called "threat management" where sometimes you do point your gun at people before they point theirs at you. This could well save their life if they're smart, your life if they're not.
 
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final one? - guys who give kids crap because they (or any one else, actually) shoot a doe. The old mentality of only killing a buck just doesn't work out with modern deer herd population management. A kid should be congratulated no matter what they shoot.
And let them take the shot. Don't get impatient and shoot it yourself.
 
Just a couple of observations,

yes... if you shot at a deer, that doesn't mean you hit it. Don't lie about it and spend an hour under my stand looking for the deer that we both know you missed. When living things are hit with a bullet, they bleed. Own your miss and move on. Then, later, when you're NOT right on top of where I am hunting (I should say WAS before you showed up), work on your shooting and tracking skills.
Last edited by courtgreene; Yesterday at 12:47 AM. Reason: This rant brought to you by the guy who ruined my hunt a week ago. I'll be hunting again Monday, don't show up.

Don't simply think that just because the deer you shot ran off, that you missed it. Sometimes they don't simply dump blood out like the yellow brick road to follow no matter the caliber or broadhead used.

I spent an hour looking for one arrowed last night, only to leave that area and go and find mine, which had been shot 2 hours prior, still alive and ready to rumble. The first one left no blood but the arrow was covered, mine was shot first through the shoulders. He left two drops of blood in a 150yd run to thick woods. Had I not known just where he was standing, and exactly where he ran, and the accuracy of the rifle and load, I "might" have "thought" I had missed. When I eased up to the edge of the woods I found him down but very much alive and as he got up I put another within an inch of the fist and he ran some more. I left him and backed out. I ended up finishing him with my revolver the two hours later when we found him another hundred yard up in the woods. The only other blood we found in the woods was where he had laid the first time.

I see it happen and find deer every year that are within 50yds of where someone shot it but when it ran they thought they missed because it didn't collapse on the spot, or leave blood laying everywhere.


What's a stand?
It's called "hunting", not "waiting" - go chase the deer and try to outsmart them

Stands are for many purposes, the best is bringing a new hunter into the sport so they have an opportunity to observe and learn. They are also just another tactic to use, or apply if the circumstances allow. There are many types ranging from box to brush, but the end uses are all the same.

And yep again, a "real" "still hunter".............."still" huntin' over someone else's dogs................you wanna "still hunt" GO some place where THAT is the preferred and singular permitted method! Grips the devil outta me that the righteous types that put a stand in prime dog hunt territory just have to constantly comment about the fact that 'their' method is somehow morally and ethically the ONLY proper way to do it....

Hurt your feelin's...........sorry about that!

The land is there for all to hunt. Prime dog hunting territory may be prime still hunting territory as well.

It's wrong if a I have my CB on and I am purposely trying to strategically place my vehicle in a place where I can shoot the same deer your dogs are working. It's not wrong to not want to set up prior to any dog hunters arrival and hunt.

And yet another pet peeve...dog hunters purposefully running dogs through a posted still hunt only area.

Glad I don't have to put up with dogs running our deer, but I do with them running hogs. Not all land is for all to hunt, national forest, BLM, yes. Private NO. Nothing ruins a hunt more than to be in prime time and someone's hog dogs come busting through the brush on private property blowing everything out. If I catch the dogs or/or hunters, they get one chance, one warning, the fence and signs means it's private and no trespassing. If you cannot control your dogs, I can. Period. Your choice. Take it up with the sheriff and game wardens.
 
I've know folks who without a doubt poach deer and have the nerve mount the head. We all know those who we highly suspect, but can't prove.

I know an outlaw type like that. He's well known by the wardens, too. :D He's been caught shooting off a road. His oldest son did a year iin prison when he was caught in the National Seashore area of south Padre Island by wardens in a helicopter. DOH! They simply followed his ATV tracks to where he had it covered with camo cloth. Dumb criminals of the month. :rolleyes: Hope the deer hunting was worth being Bubba's girl friend for a year.
Glad I don't have to put up with dogs running our deer, but I do with them running hogs. Not all land is for all to hunt, national forest, BLM, yes. Private NO. Nothing ruins a hunt more than to be in prime time and someone's hog dogs come busting through the brush on private property blowing everything out. If I catch the dogs or/or hunters, they get one chance, one warning, the fence and signs means it's private and no trespassing. If you cannot control your dogs, I can. Period. Your choice. Take it up with the sheriff and game warden

I haven't had this problem. Mostly, guys with dogs run hogs at night. If I ever do, well, "that dog looked like a coyote to me. Sorry. In fact, YOU'RE starting to look like a coyote"........ :D
 
I hate the guy that comes into camp with his loaded gun under his
arm & swings the barrel back & forth across your body while mouthing that
he almost shot 20 deer. A guy did that to me one year & I grabbed his gun &
pulled the bolt out of it---handed the pieces back to him & said " don't point a gun at people you don't want to shoot"
Maybe he wanted to shoot me--I don't know.----------:D:D
 
If you harvest a deer or some birds on somone elses place, bring them a cleaned bird, or a backstrap. Small gesture, but always appreciated. Also keeps a good name for hunters in general. People who hunt my place, but never make some sort of nice gesture are not really on the priority list of folks I would allow to hunt next season.

I had a pal bring some coffe and homemade bread to eat before the hunt the other morning. That guy is welcome back always. Had another guy hunt two seasons in a row, harvest a deer each year, and not even a "thank you". That guy will never hunt my place again.
 
for all these reasons I have lately began (mostly successfully) to hike myself into places where the morons and the lazy do not tread. My hunts have been better since leaving the beaten path.
 
Redlg155,

Uhhhhh, the balled up underwear? Doesn't look like he made it to the camper's stance huh? Toilet paper gut pile, HA, sorry, I haven't stopped laughing yet! Thanks.
 
I guess folks just do things differently in different parts of the country. Hunting big game with a dog? Not only is that unethical behavior, it is illegal in my state. Hunting over a feeder? That's just plain wrong. In fact it is illegal in my state. But then again, we do swat elk down while the poor critters are trying to migrate to a feed ground through belly deep snow. :evil:
 
I guess folks just do things differently in different parts of the country. Hunting big game with a dog? Not only is that unethical behavior, it is illegal in my state.

Unethical?? Give me a FRIGGIN BREAK!! Says who? I am assuming that you've never done it therefore you are an expert on the subject? What state do you live in?
 
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Please don't send pictures to a publication claiming your 2 yoa son shot a 11 point with his .270.

Don't claim you ranch raised, genetically seleccted, high fence raised trophy whitetail that you paid several thousand for as a fair chase kill. This actually was tried by a Florida hunter who ended up with criminal charges for entering it in a contest.

I've know folks who without a doubt poach deer and have the nerve mount the head. We all know those who we highly suspect, but can't prove.

If I'm hunting in a block of woods and have been there all morning, I still have the right to shoot any deer that crosses my path..regardless of the fact you arrived much later with your dogs.

If you come across me in my stand, please don't stop and try to have a conversation. Did I see. anything this morning? yep...you.

Please don't drag your deer all over town for hours on end to show your buddies, to include stopping to eat lunch at the diner when it's 70degrees outside.

Any one else need to vent?:D
I got your back on this one & those same people claim to know all there is to know about ammo, firearms, & hunting when it`s clear they don`t know beans.
 
The land is there for all to hunt. Prime dog hunting territory may be prime still hunting territory as well

It is. And being public land, it's hard to tell if the deer is running ahead of a pack of dogs chasing the deer, or if that deer heard the pack of dogs chasing another deer and decided to take a detour away from the chase... so if I shoot 'your' deer I'm not sorry, they came to me, so if drive hunting and dog chasing is ethical, sportsman-like hunting, so is shooting the deer someone else's dogs were chasing. I'll split the meat and call it it a joint-effort to be fair, though. They can even have any antlers posessed by the deceased animal. And that's my peeve.. someone claiming rights to public land. Get your own place to hunt if you want to call it yours.

Also- chase dogs coming onto private property.. read the signs.. your dogs found on my land WILL be treated as trespassing poachers/strays and fired upon with lethal intent. Your ID tags may or may not be mailed back to you.

-Blocking roads on public lands with vehicle. It's PUBLIC... MOVE IT.
- PPL shooting up the ranges/not using the range but leave their stuff occupying multiple lanes for over an hour( multiple guns placed on multiple lanes so the shooter doesn't have to change targets, just move over a lane and continue)
- dumping animal caracasses that have not been used to their full potential IE- leaving shoulder, neck, ribs etc which are usuable/edible parts but only taking the prime- back-strap, rear quarters and tender loins
-finding hunters IN my stand which is on private property(permission not given) or finding someone's trash around it like multiple cigarette butts and beer cans
 
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I was hunting on about 200 acres of private land that is very well posted. Several years ago, this guy comes walking down the middle of the property, telling us he shot a deer up on the mountain and has been following the tracks ever since (from his description, he shot the deer at least 10 miles away).

I told the landowner that what the guy said is really a "low-excuse" to follow that fresh set of tracks probably leading from the NEAREST upper-road, down through the private woods, across 800 yards of private field and crossing a brook, to the lower-road below.:rolleyes:

It doesn't take a surgeon-general to realize that if you shot a deer half a day ago and you have been following the tracks for 10+ miles, you are either lying or you don't know how to hunt, or BOTH of the above!:fire:

We told the guy he can follow the tracks down to the next road and don't bother ever coming on the property again.:cuss:
 
Unethical?? Give me a FRIGGIN BREAK!! Says who? I am assuming that you've never done it therefore you are an expert on the subject? What state do you live in?
Says who? Let's start with the Wyoming State Legislature and the Game and Fish Commission. If your dog is seen chasing a big game animal, the dog would in all probability become a target of opportunity just like a coyote. Just sayin'...

Even though legal in other states, Wyoming has several laws that were inspired by the sponsor's personal code of ethics, hunting big game with dogs, "party hunting", baiting big game, shooting big game with a 22-250, and so forth. My point is when in Rome... ;)

On a personal level, I have no problem a hunter using techniques that are legal where he/she is hunting. There is enough anti-hunting sentiment without hunters casting stones at each other. That's why the :evil: icon on my first post. Denotes a troll at work. :D
 
This may be a repeat, but...

I can't stand to see people post "pet" names for their hunting equipment (i.e. Remmy, Winny, Leupy, shotty, boom stick, smoke pole, etc). I am a member of several hunting/shooting message boards, and I see it on every single one. I think the posters are under the impression that it make them look overly familiar with their equipment, but it makes me think they are total novices or <redacted for NON-THR material>.:scrutiny:

If this steps on anyone's toes, so be it.:neener:
 
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The stories in this thread are amazing (in a bad way).

Please stop shooting from inside the cab of your truck on public land (do what you want on your own.) And Please don't drive your truck, with rifles pointed out the windows down the logging road along the treeline looking for a lucky shot...then back the other way 30 min later... then again 30 min after that.

WOW!

If you cannot control your dogs, I can. Period. Your choice. Take it up with the sheriff and game wardens.

The law (in Virginia) is on the dog hunter's side if the dogs stray out of bounds. You shoot my dog, I will assume you're shooting at me since I stay close to my dog. You really should rethink that policy when other armed men are around.

And people ask me why I don't hunt during deer season.

Frankly, it's just too dangerous with all those hunters acting irresponsibly.
 
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Says who? Let's start with the Wyoming State Legislature and the Game and Fish Commission. If your dog is seen chasing a big game animal, the dog would in all probability become a target of opportunity just like a coyote. Just sayin'...

Ankeny,
Interesting....

The state of Wyoming seems to differ with your ethics...

But I guess you don't consider a Mt Lion to be a Big Game animal? Guessing once again, you've never tried to hunt one? Because if you'd had ever hunted Mt Lion with dogs you'd know that it one of the most physically demanding types of hunting on the planet and gives the term fair chase and ethics a new definition. How often have you been able to "catch" a big game animal and if you weren't happy with it let it go?

Directly from the Wyoming game regulations.

(c) Use of Dogs. Dogs may be used to take mountain lions during the
open season.
(d) After a mountain lion has been pursued, treed, cornered or held at
bay, a properly licensed person shall immediately harvest or release
the mountain lion. No person shall in any manner restrict or hinder
the mountain lion’s ability to escape for the purpose of allowing a
person who was not present at the time the mountain lion was treed
to arrive and take the mountain lion.
 
there we go. My real biggest pet peave. People pushing what there idea of hunting ethics on to someone else. If its legal its none of your bussiness how and where and with what someone takes an animal. The anti hunters and anti gun people just love when we tear each other up and call each other unethical. Ive seen something as stupid as a guy who hunts rabbits with a beagle tell me that hunting bear with a dog is unethical!!
 
Hunting with dogs is probably how our ealiest ancestors did it. It is a relationship that goes back eons. Hunting with a scoped, centerfire rifle barely goes back a few generations.

Divide and conqueor is the strategy of the anti crowd. Just ask the poor folks in California.

Most of the anti's are not stupid enough to call for an all out ban on hunting or shooting. They will do in steps. Having us fighting each other really helps them.

I think that if you are hunting big game with a scoped, centerfire rifle, use trail cameras to scout the animals, or use any other device to gain an edge on the game, you really have no room to complain about dog users.
 
I don't see the difference between sitting in a box blind and sitting on the ground all leaned up against a rock or tree. Either way, you had to walk to get there before you could play the sit-and-wait game, pretending to be a cougar. And, after all, terrain and vegetation control the style of one's hunting--not the opinions of those who live in some other state. IOW, ignore ignorant arrogance. :)

DON'T scout an area through your scope. Use binoculars and thus show that you're not covered all over with stupid.

Hunting with dogs has been a normal way of hunting for thousands of years. If you don't like to do that, don't do that. It's not forced upon you.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some who hunt on public land are suffering from terminal dumbosity. Trouble is, their legal rights are equal to yours. Live with it. Don't waste psychic energy in chest-beating macho on the Internet, griping about it.
 
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