Don't take a nice Bull Elk and take on the back strap and leave the rest.
Keeping it real. Pet peeve time.
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Loyalist Dave
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Don't walk onto posted land, where your long dead grandad once had permission to hunt, and act like you've the right to hunt that property when you are caught, especially when the current landowner who bought the land before you were born has never met your lazy arse, because you couldn't be bothered to go and ask the man for permission to hunt.
On a hunting show, when you are in an elevated blind, 300+ yards from the deer, with a guide, don't whisper to each other, ..., if the deer can hear you from inside your treehouse at that range, you better be using kryptonite bullets. COME ON it looks stupid when you do that.
Don't call me at 10 p.m. to come and help you track the deer you hit at 50 yards with an arrow, in the last moments of the sun going down at 6 p.m., and the blood trail peeter'd out...., as far as you can tell..., and don't expect met to be out there the next morning to help you either..., I have my own hunting to do.
Even if you can make a lethal 50+ yard bowshot every time..., don't speak about it in public..., as it encourages too many folks who cannot make such a shot to try it, and wound an animal.
Don't take "sound shots" on public land at stuff rustling in the bushes to try and "flush out a deer", you lazy, blind moron.
Don't confuse "ethics" with aesthetics. Baiting, hunting from stands, running dogs, hunting from the back of a horse, using cover scents, hunting in game preserves, are all documented techniques from times before guns existed. As Mr. Eatman pointed out..., you don't have to use any of them.
Run your dogs where it's legal on public lands, that's fine. Good luck, and I hope you fill your tag(s). Love to hear about it when you are done!
Your dog that you don't hunt leaves your property, and goes alone onto other folks private property and f's up somebody's hunting..., apologize and take your dog's carcass away without complaint. The fault was yours alone. You should reimburse the hunter for the round used to dispatch your illegally stray animal.
Public Hunting Lands are Public Hunting lands. I don't give a rat's scrotum that you own a few acres nearby and a horse, and you want to go riding on the access trail on the public HUNTING land that's oooh so pretty, during hunting season, as you jingle jangle jingle and yackety yack with your BFF on her horse, without wearing blaze orange and illegally interfere with my hunting. It would serve such a person right if I dropped the horse out from under them, BUT..., that noble animal that you are endangering is smarter than you, lady, and it's not the horses fault you are a horses backside.
If you are the previously described person, and you like to feed the deer on your property because they are oooh sooo pretty..., that's fine. Don't freak out when you see me loading my harvested deer into my vehicle. Just 'cause you feed 'em doesn't give you property rights to them.
"Murder" is the "Unlawful killing of a human being". If it's lawful, or if it's not a human, don't get in my face with that term.
LD
On a hunting show, when you are in an elevated blind, 300+ yards from the deer, with a guide, don't whisper to each other, ..., if the deer can hear you from inside your treehouse at that range, you better be using kryptonite bullets. COME ON it looks stupid when you do that.
Don't call me at 10 p.m. to come and help you track the deer you hit at 50 yards with an arrow, in the last moments of the sun going down at 6 p.m., and the blood trail peeter'd out...., as far as you can tell..., and don't expect met to be out there the next morning to help you either..., I have my own hunting to do.
Even if you can make a lethal 50+ yard bowshot every time..., don't speak about it in public..., as it encourages too many folks who cannot make such a shot to try it, and wound an animal.
Don't take "sound shots" on public land at stuff rustling in the bushes to try and "flush out a deer", you lazy, blind moron.
Don't confuse "ethics" with aesthetics. Baiting, hunting from stands, running dogs, hunting from the back of a horse, using cover scents, hunting in game preserves, are all documented techniques from times before guns existed. As Mr. Eatman pointed out..., you don't have to use any of them.
Run your dogs where it's legal on public lands, that's fine. Good luck, and I hope you fill your tag(s). Love to hear about it when you are done!
Your dog that you don't hunt leaves your property, and goes alone onto other folks private property and f's up somebody's hunting..., apologize and take your dog's carcass away without complaint. The fault was yours alone. You should reimburse the hunter for the round used to dispatch your illegally stray animal.
Public Hunting Lands are Public Hunting lands. I don't give a rat's scrotum that you own a few acres nearby and a horse, and you want to go riding on the access trail on the public HUNTING land that's oooh so pretty, during hunting season, as you jingle jangle jingle and yackety yack with your BFF on her horse, without wearing blaze orange and illegally interfere with my hunting. It would serve such a person right if I dropped the horse out from under them, BUT..., that noble animal that you are endangering is smarter than you, lady, and it's not the horses fault you are a horses backside.
If you are the previously described person, and you like to feed the deer on your property because they are oooh sooo pretty..., that's fine. Don't freak out when you see me loading my harvested deer into my vehicle. Just 'cause you feed 'em doesn't give you property rights to them.
"Murder" is the "Unlawful killing of a human being". If it's lawful, or if it's not a human, don't get in my face with that term.
LD
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AKElroy
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Yes, we Texans get endless grief over this one. Far more fair to hunt over a known nautral food or water source, or known place of traffic--NOT. You feeder objector types do hunt after scouting signs of animals being present, correct? Congratulations if you have been able to convince yourself that is substantially different.
In my view, a feeder hunter that feeds year round is both financially committed and year-round committed to harvesting the best animals available. I spend a year looking through game pics, studying the movements and timing of the animals in order to make the best of the time in the stand. I know in August the animals I want in November. That may not be your kind of hunting, but it is my kind of fun.
My distances are not chip-shots, my site lines are narrow with most of the natural brush remaining, and most of my animals are taken at intersecting trails nowhere near the feeder from a tower blind.
The best part of the hunt, by far, is the best part for any still hunter. Getting in a stand an hour or 90 minutes before sunrise, hearing animals all around and not knowing what they are, seeing the dark shapes of movement wondering and anticipating, and hearing the world come alive when the sun breaks the horizon. That is the essence of it for me, as I suspect it is for most hunters, feeders or not.
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AKElroy
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My #1 gripe? Hunters, let's call them the "Sniperwannabes" that butcher game in horrible fashion in order to attempt some trick shot.
Two cases in point: Guy gut shoots pig that then takes 3 suffering hours find because he is "lining up a double". Awesome.
Same guy, prior week, shoots the bottom jaw off a doe at 200 yards because he was lining up a "head shot". Terrific. 5 hours of looking were waisted on that one as the shot was not terminal, nor did it bleed enough to track. Found the jaw though, right were he said she was standing at the shot. We found her the following week when the buzards showed the way. Bet that was a fun week for the doe that likely died of dehydration being unable to drink.
I far prefer to hunt with folks that believe we owe it to the game, any game, to wait for a clean killing shot.
Two cases in point: Guy gut shoots pig that then takes 3 suffering hours find because he is "lining up a double". Awesome.
Same guy, prior week, shoots the bottom jaw off a doe at 200 yards because he was lining up a "head shot". Terrific. 5 hours of looking were waisted on that one as the shot was not terminal, nor did it bleed enough to track. Found the jaw though, right were he said she was standing at the shot. We found her the following week when the buzards showed the way. Bet that was a fun week for the doe that likely died of dehydration being unable to drink.
I far prefer to hunt with folks that believe we owe it to the game, any game, to wait for a clean killing shot.
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AKElroy
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OK, one more. My #2 gripe: Hunters that do not practice or properly sight-in their rifles. This year, the woods I hunt have sounded like a shooting range. The stories around the camp fire are filled with ridicule for the guy that missed a doe at 90 yards, and took four shots that all failed to connect. We have had at least two of our six hunters miss multiple times at close distances. The shots I am hearing around our property tell the same story; most initial shots are followed quickly by one or two more.
One of the guys on our lease that shoots with laser precision volunteered my 10 year-old son to sight in their rifles and give them a few pointers on trigger control. I love that guy---
One of the guys on our lease that shoots with laser precision volunteered my 10 year-old son to sight in their rifles and give them a few pointers on trigger control. I love that guy---
retrieverman
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Sometimes we're just too busy to "confront you like a man" (what have you got against women, anyway?).
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That is correct. According to the Wyoming Game and Fish a mountain lion is not a big game animal.
As I said, I don't have a problem with people hunting in a fashion that is appropriate for their conditions and legal where they hunt. Baiting a deer is indeed "wrong" in Wyoming, but it is acceptable and in some cases the only practical way to hunt in other areas.
788Ham
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lizziedog,
Using dogs to hunt is pure BS in my estimation! In this state, if a dog is running the game trails, chasing game or not, he's legal game too. I've shot 3 of them in my hunting experiences over the years. They make just as good of coyote bait and a gut ripped fawn or doe! Let'em run, they get shot.
Using dogs to hunt is pure BS in my estimation! In this state, if a dog is running the game trails, chasing game or not, he's legal game too. I've shot 3 of them in my hunting experiences over the years. They make just as good of coyote bait and a gut ripped fawn or doe! Let'em run, they get shot.
lizziedog1
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Do your rifles have scopes?
Do wear clothing when you hunt?
Does a vehicle transport you to place of hunting and return you home?
Those are BS hunting methods too.
The anti-hunter, PETA crowd loves people like you.
Do wear clothing when you hunt?
Does a vehicle transport you to place of hunting and return you home?
Those are BS hunting methods too.
The anti-hunter, PETA crowd loves people like you.
ZeroJunk
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I don't ever remember being so desparate to kill something that a dog wandering by was going to upset me much.
Keep in mind that very few public "hunting" lands are designated ONLY for hunting. In multi-use areas, those horseback riders have just as much right to be there as you do, whether you think they "ought" to be there or not. Just because you happen to be the in the same areas as someone else utilizing the area doesn't mean they are "illegally interferring with your hunting" unless they are expressly prohibited from being there. Thats the thing about "public" land....the "public" can use it any way they see fit so long as they comply with the law....and last I checked, there'd be very few situations where shooting the horse out from under someone...because they annoyed you...would be justified, and there mere suggestion is far from being high road. If you don't like the challenges that come with hunting public land, don't do iot, but don't presume you have some sort of exclusive right to be there just because you happen to be hunting. When you have the deed in your hand, you can decide who can come and go, and when. Until that point, public land is there for the general public to use, and not everyone will "use" it like you think they OUGHT to use it. While I know regulations vary from place to place, what I said seems to be accurate for your home state http://www.eregulations.com/maryland/hunting/public-hunting-lands/ Reading that, I see nothing that says public hunting land is soley for use by hunters, and not the general public. Threatening to shoot the horse out from under someone...who has just as much right to be there as you do...whether you agree with it or not...is just silly talk, and paints a poor picture of all hunters, even those of us who would never dream of saying such a thing, let alone posting it on the internet for all to see. Thanks for tainting public perception of hunters and hunting. Threatening to kill what is by all measures a minor annoyance in the grand scheme of things just isnt what I want to be about...or want the public thinking I'm about.....next time, think of the impression your words leave on people. Arrogance and ignorance won't get one far in life. The fact you are a POLICE OFFICER advocating such activity, well........just wow. And people wonder where the negative public perception of law enforcement comes from. You know what they say about one apple and all......
Some friend.....I would be hard pressed to ask anyone for help in locating a big game animal I had wounmded, unless it was a last resort. If I did end up asking someone for help (hasn't happened yet), it would be because i was desperate to recover a wounded animal, rather than let him go to waste. Most of my friends...the hunters among them at the very least, would realize the seriousness of the situation, and nearly all would lend a hand if they were able....regardless if they had "better things to be doing", like their own hunting. Like I said, I wouldn't typically ask, but if I did so, it would be out of sheer need, and true friends tend to typically step up to the plate in such times. If your friends cant count on your help unless its convenient for you....well, in my view, you're not much of a friend. Losing an animal is never fun. ASking your buddy to help you try to prevent such a loss....when he'd rather be hunting himself.... isn't fun either, but beats letting an animal die a slow miserable death, and both parties involved SHOULD recognize that fact
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lizziedog1
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Wow, what tolerant people we have here.
We have folks that will shoot dogs and horses if they disagess with their activities.
We do have PETA poster children here, that's for sure!
We have folks that will shoot dogs and horses if they disagess with their activities.
We do have PETA poster children here, that's for sure!
Then don't do it. No one is forcing you to. You can hunt buck naked with a flint point spear for all I care as long as you are ethical and legal under the laws of the state in which you live. In CO it is perfectly legal to hunt Mtn Lion with dogs. And shooting a dog that is not activly chasing game or interfearing with your hunt is just pure BS in my estimation.
Art Eatman
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Too much macho chest-beating low road stuff to suit me. End of thread.
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