Keeping Older Hunters Interested. How can it be done?

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Living up north has it challenges for keeping older hunter’s interests. Especially as their family moves away, and friends either quit, or pass on. My father was never really into hunting. But I know how I got him interested in it at age 65.....BBQ.

Several years ago when I brought a feral hog home and smoked it, he was hooked. Plus, in Oklahoma, there’s no season or bag limit (however, there are a few restrictions for deer season). So he can go out on a nice day and walk/hike around the thousands of acres of public land, or go to some private land we have and sit at a feeder. This has translated into him showing an interest to go deer hunting. And he has been a few times. Still not as interested as hunting pigs. But it’s there. He would rather watch them run around and play or mosey on past him than shoot one. I totally get it. He’ll be 72 this year. I’m 38 and feel the same way. Some of my best memories in the woods are with him. Sitting on a warm summer day under a shade tree on an old pond bank watching a feeder. Late to the game for sure. But as Cheech Marin said in Ghostbusters “Better late than never.”

Hunting doesn’t have to be freezing your ass off, sitting on an old tree stump, when it’s 10 below zero. But if that’s the hand you’re dealt, don’t fold it. Play it. We only get so many sunrises and sunsets. One day, we will all be laying in a bed thinking about how we really didn’t feel that bad. We were just being lazy.

I’m taking care of a man who is a 101 year old WWII vet who saw combat in France and the South Pacific. He has CoVid (he’s going to be just fine). I sat down with him the other night and started talking about all the things he’s done in his life. All the things he saw in the war, and all the things he did out of the Army that time permitted. I may or may not have put off charting to talk to him. Don’t judge. I don’t give a damn about billing. I care about the people.

During our conversation we got on the subject of fishing. He spoke about how there was this jetty by a bridge he and his highschool buddies went fishing at many times before the war. To see his eyes light up talking about the fish they caught. Even when it was freezing cold outside. He was like a kid again. He spoke about how his buddies made a pact after Pearl, that after the war, when they all made it back (sadly some didn’t) that they would all go back to that jetty and go fishing again. And they did for many years. It was their reunion. Slowly, over time, his friends didn’t make the trip. They would be sick. They would pass on. But the ones who could, did. Now it’s just him. He kept going until he couldn’t physically make the trip anymore. I asked him why he kept going back even by himself (up until his mid 90’s). He didn’t pause one second to think about his answer. I didn’t remember all of it. But when I left his room, I wrote down everything I could remember....

“Because that was our spot. That was our time. Even when my friends weren’t there anymore, they were still there. Do you understand? You said you like to hunt and fish. Well son let me give you some advice from an old man. Go. Every chance you get.....as long as your wife says it’s ok (I’m not married but sound advice). It doesn’t matter if it’s freezing cold or hot as the sun. Make them memories. Even the painful ones. Someday you’re going to be like me. And those memories are all you’re going to have. Now I’m in this bed in this godforsaken hospital. Look at me. I’ve got all these wires hooked up to me. I don’t know what any of this does. My wife is gone. My friends are gone. My family isn’t allowed to see me. Here I am. But I’m 101 years old. Can you believe that? I can’t.” He chuckled. “All the things I’ve done. And all I want to do is go fishing”.

That memory will last me the rest of my life. And it was so worth staying over after work to chart. Someday, my father will be gone. But I will still go sit on that pond bank with him as he cusses and swats at those mosquitos. If I shoot a pig, great. If I don’t, still time well spent. Never liked coffee anyways.
 
“Because that was our spot. That was our time. Even when my friends weren’t there anymore, they were still there. Do you understand? You said you like to hunt and fish. Well son let me give you some advice from an old man. Go. Every chance you get.....as long as your wife says it’s ok (I’m not married but sound advice). It doesn’t matter if it’s freezing cold or hot as the sun. Make them memories. Even the painful ones. Someday you’re going to be like me. And those memories are all you’re going to have. Now I’m in this bed in this godforsaken hospital. Look at me. I’ve got all these wires hooked up to me. I don’t know what any of this does. My wife is gone. My friends are gone. My family isn’t allowed to see me. Here I am. But I’m 101 years old. Can you believe that? I can’t.” He chuckled. “All the things I’ve done. And all I want to do is go fishing”.

That memory will last me the rest of my life. And it was so worth staying over after work to chart. Someday, my father will be gone. But I will still go sit on that pond bank with him as he cusses and swats at those mosquitos. If I shoot a pig, great. If I don’t, still time well spent. Never liked coffee anyways.[/QUOTE]

Here are some wise words to live by! It's a crying shame that we are too soon old and too late smart!!
 
Hmmm...how to keep us interested.... Well, I don't see it so much as keeping us interested as being able to do what interests us.

I can't tramp the fields anymore, but the range and access is flat as a parking lot, and one trip down range gets 6 targets up on the frame because it is fewer trips downrange. Reloading fuels shooting, so the interest is there for both.

Formative years, I went fishing with my dad all the time and many times by bicycle with my friends in the South. Fishable waters were within bike range. Now, in AZ, a fishing trip is an undertaking. You have to drive a ways wet a line, and you need a boat to get to a fishing spot away from the boat ramp and the skiers, and ski-dos. Not like using a punt and skulling along next to the bank with a cane pole droping a line next to the bank. Rod and reel fishing is work; cast-retrieve, cast-retrieve... better than "work" work, but still work. I can sit in my backyard with my ultralight gear and practice pin point casting, and once on awhile I do catch a "tree or bush fish". Pool has been filled in so I can't check/watch the action of "plugs/lures".

Keeping interested...not a problem. DOING when you are older may be more of a problem.
 
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Seventy Three year old Colorado hunter here. I went on my first elk hunting trip with my father in 1953. We got an fine bull. Killed my first 3 deer at the age of 14 (IIRC) all within 5 minutes of opening morning. I tried to get my son interested in hunting. He went with me on public hunting areas for 3 years. We did not see any game, he lost interest and I could never get him to go again. Here are a few reasons.

Number 1 reason: ACCESS
Getting access to the game is getting harder and harder. Road closures in National Forest. Many areas where my father and I used to hunt have been closed off.

Private property. First let me say that I respect land owners. The property they own is their life. They need to scratch ever nickel they can out of their land to pay for home, fuel, food, education, insurance, equipment et. al. I get that. Some owners sell out to hunting clubs, some have bad experiences with irresponsible hunters, some charge to hunt or trespass across the property. That is fine. But, pay to hunt is getting very expensive. The days of paying $20 to land owner for a key to unlock a gate to cross their property is L O N G G O N E now. Cant afford it.

That leaves hunting in over crowded public areas. I've seen traffic jams of hunters patrolling roads, hardly a place to camp. You have to be careful where you camp because of regulations and steep fines if you miss it. There is not going to be any game those area anyway! The game is pushed back into the more remote areas. I've seen it for the last 20 years.

Number 2 reason. REGULATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT
Every year agencies will come out with new regulations. They change want you can hunt with. What was legal last year is not legal this year. Something you never heard of before is now a new law. They gouge you to buy a license that you do not use. Here in Colorado you must purchase a small game license before you can jump in the lottery for a big game license. After you purchase the small game license you have to call in and get a number to write on your small game license and application. If you do not, and your checked it is a $100 fine. Plus they charge a processing fee just to apply! Why? It is all computer managed and if you don't dot an "i" the computer will kick you out of the lottery. Anyway, you'll spend an extra $30 to $40 over the cost of the license to hunt in an area where there isn't any game in first place.

You need to be lawyer to read the legalese of the regulations. Enforcement if checked, major and minor violations are swift and thorough. They need to pay for the operations of their agency and they get funded through license sales and fines.

Number 3: AGE and ACESS: Yes, I could, at my age park in a public area and back pack 5 or six miles to get to the good game areas that I used to hunt and that Colorado is noted for. I don't own a horse and really, do you think a 73 year old hunter could pack out a bull elk? How many 10 mile round trips would it take? A couple of years ago, in the news, a hunter was packing out an elk. He returned on this last trip only to find that someone had stole his elk out of the back of his truck.

NUMBER 4: No one in my family really cares to eat wild game. It would be just me. I will not kill any game animal that I don't intend to eat. There are plenty of sources where you can buy commercial raised buffalo, elk, venison a lot cheaper and easier than going after it during the states hunting season.

Those are my reasons why I probably wont hunt anymore. Does not mean that I don't enjoy other shooting events. I, and other my age believe that hunting in America is on a very slippery slope to extinction. Hunting will only exist for the very wealthy who can be pampered in fancy hunting lodges.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Those are my reasons. Others will vary.

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Quite a wide variety of outlooks here. Different parts of the country with conditions very different. The basic question was how to keep hunters interested in later years. Comfort seems to be the number 1 issue. Loosing companions close behind. The hard work we all know this is, especially when compared to what you can just buy at the store is another.

I grew up with just a bit of hunting small game with dogs when we were visiting the old family place in Arkansas. Later when I was in grad school in a small central Texas town I lived in a rent house on a ranch just out of town a bit. I got a 1903A3 in 30-06 and learned to hunt deer. The first year or 2 I got up before dawn, trecked to my tree several hundred yards from my house in the dark. Lots of effort, 1 per season. The last deer I shot at that place. It was a damp foggy day. I was sitting in the living room when I saw the buck that was jumping the yard fence and raiding my garden out in the pasture. I walked out the back door barefoot with the 30-06 and nailed him at 80yd or so. 3 minute deer season. At what point does hunting turn into harvesting ? I'll get up and brave the cold to hunt but to harvest is too easy so I can just do it when the time comes. I like venison too much to loose interest. nite time hog hunting is more exciting but too often I'm thinking about how much work dressing out will be and pack it up early. I guess my point here is you get your fill of that early excitement and as it becomes easier, for what ever reasons, you are not as willing to put that same amount of effort in.

When I'm out in the morning, on a day I want to shoot, I still get that adrenaline surge when a whitetail walks out into my zone. I'm just not quite so willing to get out of my warm bed to be out there watching the frost melt away

Back to the basic question. How do we keep the older generation interested in hunting ? Comfort seems to be # 1. Hunting companionship is another very important thing. I dont think that can be under rated. Also "been there, done that" syndrome. I think mentoring new hunters is a very good start. Being around the excitement of youngsters who are experiencing this for the first time is something that has no equal. The added benefit of passing on knowledge to the younger generation is very satisfying. Been there, done that; do something different. If you'v never hunted hogs and like to cook game you cant know what your missing. small game ? Hunting squirrels with dogs is one of the most fun way to play in the woods in my opinion. Bigger game, go out west for elk or antelope or go to Texas and see some exotics.
 
Rekindling interest in hunting for older guys is difficult at best if you, like me, are the old guy and really impossible if it is someone else. At age 74 it is much harder to "get going" for an early morning hunt or a long-haul hunt when I have to drive for hours. But, I do it as often as I can and kick my self when I don't. Every time and I mean every single time I drive down the highway toward my favorite hunting spot when the sun is just peaking over the eastern horizon, I experience that same rush of excitement. I had to pass up hunting deer this year because of virus panic (others, not me) and I'm still bummed about it. But, I hunted squirrels twice in the last few days and have 2 more hunts planned for next week. I'm growing excited as I write his note. So that's what I promise my older friends, that fun is still out there.
But, I do get it. My older brother, age 84, is losing his abilities and has made peace with the fact that his hunting days are over. If we lived closer, I would at least take him with me to the squirrel woods. I drive through a pasture and park right next to great spots and he could shoot squirrels out the window. But, he is 7 hours drive away.
You can encourage older guys who have given up the strenuous deer hunts, to take up squirrel hunting. It can be very exciting and much, much easier. Because I have crappy legs and feet, I quit hunting pheasants and quail a long time ago; couldn't do the walking. So I looked for other hunting and shooting activities that I could do, like squirrel hunting, prairie dog shooting, varmint calling, target shooting at the range.
 
Grandkids. My grandpa didnt hunt for 30 years. Then I was born. And the rest is history. Took me squirrel hunting. Taught me deer hunting but never took me. Also taught me to stalk. And to this day im 38 im quite despite being heavy. I get comments on how quite I am. 250lb and you want hear me unless I want you to. ;-)
 
After my dad got in his 70's it was hard for him to stay warm he eventually lost interest
in hunting.
 
I’m 76. Everything hurts in the morning.

My wife is a gourmet cook (I do the dishes). We both like venison.

I go hunting in the afternoon, when the temperature is not ridiculously cold. 2, 3 hours in the stand, then home to a shower, dinner. Maybe with a deer. If not try again tomorrow.

When it is no longer enjoyable, I’ll quit. This is the pastime we have striven for. Enjoy it or don’t, as you choose for yourself.
 
Sounds like you live in the country, very close to your stand. I'm 76, live in the city, 2 hr drive to hunting grounds with bad ankle and bad knee on the other side. Like you I'm a late starter. Unlike others, I can't just grab field/day pack, field jacket, and rifle and go.

As I've said before, it's not keeping old folks interested, the interest is there, it's the old folks ability to pursue what they are interested in, that is the problem.
 
The best way to rekindle interest is to make sure the guy is truly interested. I've hunted with my younger nephews and their in-laws a couple of times; pheasant hunts where I was a blocker. That means I move the vehicle to the end of the field we are working and wait for the walkers to push the pheasants my way. That task spares me the walking that I can no longer do. I've loved every minute of it and would welcome going again and again. I let them know I really enjoy it and would happily go in the future, in spite my my 74 year old aches and pains. I actively pursue it and offer to help with motel arrangements, transportation, etc. I take the responsibility of maintaining the connection with family and friends. When I eventually lose the ability to pursue hunting and shooting, I will not lose interest in my family and friends.
 
My sense is blood circulation and the ability to remain warm in chilly conditions is a HUGE factor.
This impacts not only game hunting...and includes participation in any physical outdoor endeavor.
A solid focus on good nutrition, a healthy lifestyle, and technologically-advanced garments all help.
 
I am 63 and I contracted covid in October. Lost all of bow season and was still very weak when gun season opened. Not sure if it was needing to prove something to myself or just plain cussedness but I pushed myself to cross the creek, climb the mountain to get to my most inaccessible stand 1\2 mile hike up the side of a very steep mountain. Had to stop and rest a few times but I got there just as it was getting light. My son was supposed to go with me but got called in to work. My wife said I shouldn't go but something made me need to go. Saw a buck chase a doe by me at 8:30 but he never slowed enough to give me a shot. An hour later he came sneaking back through above me. I got my savage 99 in 308 up and got him In the scope. At the shot he Bronco kicked and took off down the hill stopping just above a logging road and laid down with head up. I chambered another round and at about 90 yards shot him through the neck. Gathered up my possibles and walked down to him. After field dressing him I was a bit winded so I sat on a log and watched the chickadees pick at the offal for awhile. Put my drag harness on and started down the logging road toward the hill.about 200 yards along struggling to catch my breath I sat down..There I sat wondering why the he'll am I doing this to myself? The answer was like a thunder clap. Because I love it as much as I love anything in my life . I stood up smiling ear to ear, rejuvenated I started dragging again this time whistling a tune.
 
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9x56MS has a good story. Here is my hunting story. About 12-13 years ago, my condition (CMT) had progressed to the point that I could hardly walk cross my living room. Finally decided to have the surgeries that had been recommended years before. Had 3 major foot/ankle reconstruction surgeries and one minor surgery; now have steel rods and screws holding my now fused feet/ankles together. In between these operations, I had 3 surgeries on my hands and wrists. I think I and my insurance paid for an orthopedic wing at KU Med Center in KC, KS. The combined recovery and physical therapy time took 5-6 years out of my life. This was followed by a rotator cuff repair and more physical therapy on the right shoulder (my shooting arm). Through 2019 I increased my exercise to walking 2 miles a day and lifting weights in between. I lost 40 pounds and was in the best shape I had been in the last 12-15 years.

Throughout these difficult chapters in my life, hunting and shooting helped a lot to keep me going, along with the unwavering support of my wonderful wife. I now hunt frequently and shoot at my range 2-3 times per week. The reason I tell this story, on the heels of 9x56MS' story is to suggest that he and I share a strong desire to continue to hunt and shoot. That desire and motivation comes from within. No one can convince you to continue the sport if you have given up. Trust me, I tried and failed numerous times with my father and older brother. Thanks for reading my story.
 
This was followed by a rotator cuff repair and more physical therapy on the right shoulder (my shooting arm).

This nearly ended my hunting, shooting, I still cannot handle heavier recoiling firearms, but thanks to the lowly 243 win I'm hunting and shooting rifles, handguns with 308 win level recoil. I'm not done yet either, still trying to raise the recoil tolerance to presurgery levels.
 
I had a rotator cuff tear 3 years ago lost a whole bow season. I am still shooting my 35 caliber rifles with no issues since I put limbsaver recoil pads on all of them.
 
Went through my hunting journal to see which rifles are up to bat and on deck this year. My Marlin 336 in 35 rem is up to bat and my BLR 358 win is on deck. My ophthalmologist threw me a curveball about 3 weeks ago. Hadn’t had my eyes checked in 3 years due to the whole covid thing. When the exam was over my Doc told me I no longer need to wear glasses, I just need 2.5 readers. A little background is in order. I have worn glasses since I was 5 and bifocals since I was 8. You could have knocked me over with a feather. The big issue is I now have to adjust focus on all my scopes and verify zeros. Life is a series of surprises and challenges to be dealt with. Bear season opens next month so time to get moving. Another hunting season is upon us and I am stoked. Just ordered a new set of 8x42 Athlon Ares binoculars to use. Never really used Binoculars much when I had to use glasses as I just couldn’t get them focused correctly. I love a challenge and I got it in spades. Good hunting to all.
 
I still have the interest and desire but not to the extent I used to.
Most of my 70 something friends dialed back years ago even when I tried enticing them by shooting a decent 8, a 9, a nontypical 14 and another decent 8 in my back yard over the last 4 years.
I don't mind climbing my treestand which is 90 feet from my bathroom. I no longer have a zipline to get over to it but can still climb a 20 foot ladder.

This year, I dug out my first deer rifle. A 1924 dated 7mm mauser Spanish Oveido.
It cost me $26. I put a very cheap scout scope setup on it so I was $75 for that and anothe 75 for mounts.
I bought a set of dies for it. Shot it a few times and had trouble hitting the side of a barn.
Barrel was in bad shape. I had no idea what to check for all those years ago and the barrel is kind of like a sewer pipe.

I did the best I could in cleaning it up.
My BIL shot a deer with it 30+ years ago.

A friend was selling bullets for his neighbor and I got 300 7mm Sierras and Hornadys all 175 grain.which is what that rifle was originally shooting RN at about 2400fps.

The 140 gr factories ran about that fast.
I was a bit nervous about the headspace so got a field gauge for it and am somwhat satisfied I can run it at a reduced load and still shoot a deer with it.

I tried a few powders and varget seemed to group the best ( 50 yards Ha ). Well I'm moving the charges up and looking to get about 2200.

Varget, H100V and 7828 are what I have some loads worked up.

I'll see when the rain stops.

This rifle will likely be a wall hanger after I shoot a deer with it but that's Ok.

I suppose the Spanish FR8 and Ishapore 2a1 are next.but the Tikka calls my name to finish working and elk load for Dec.

Still fun. Had elk chops a couple days ago, elk chili last week and an elk steak tonite. Mailed some elk jerky to my kiddo in NH.
 
Well, I'll be 72 when my cow elk season comes around and can't wait. The whole hunt (tag, gas,lodging, process fee, guide, food ) will be in the neighborhood of 4K.
My wife said just go. Enjoy it while you can.

Now aside from trying to keep some of my old friends interested, I've gone another way.
I just got certified to teach Hunter / Trapper education in Pa. to try getting young people interested in the outdoors and specifically hunting and trapping.
Hopefully, in assisting a few classes, I will be able pass along the tradition to our youth and some older first time hunters.
I think it'll be cool.
I have to retake the student Hunter Ed class although I got a replacement card a week ago for the class I took in 1989.

I'd also like to say that because I hunt alone many times, I got a personal locator beacon as a hunting buddy.
 
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