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There is nobody in the market where Davis used to be with double barrel derringers. Seems just odd enough to be a Keltec thing. I would consider one in the right flavor… and that flavor seems to be 32 H&R mag.
There is nobody in the market where Davis used to be with double barrel derringers. Seems just odd enough to be a Keltec thing. I would consider one in the right flavor… and that flavor seems to be 32 H&R mag
Too big and heavy. The bond guns are thick. The Davis guns were thin. Scary thin in 38spl. I would guess that the barrels on the Davis were maybe 1/2” and the frame maybe 3/4” at its widest. I also can’t imagine shooting a 327fm with a 1.5” barrel. The pressure at exit would be ridiculous. All bark and not much bite in that short of a tube.
Too big and heavy. The bond guns are thick. The Davis guns were thin. Scary thin in 38spl. I would guess that the barrels on the Davis were maybe 1/2” and the frame maybe 3/4” at its widest. I also can’t imagine shooting a 327fm with a 1.5” barrel. The pressure at exit would be ridiculous. All bark and not much bite in that short of a tube.
The Honey B and Stinger are slimmer derringers than typical Bonds as they are built for .38/9mm as a maximum caliber.Too big and heavy. The bond guns are thick. The Davis guns were thin. Scary thin in 38spl. I would guess that the barrels on the Davis were maybe 1/2” and the frame maybe 3/4” at its widest. I also can’t imagine shooting a 327fm with a 1.5” barrel. The pressure at exit would be ridiculous. All bark and not much bite in that short of a tube.
Thanks for the correction.The P30 (Gendel) predated the Five-seveN by 8 years. The 1994 AWB killed it. The PMR30 is the redesigned and much improved post-ban version of the original pistol.
The P30 used a fluted chamber like an HK roller gun, while the PMR has a semi-blowback hybrid system which employs case friction against the chamber walls to behave sort of like a short recoil gun. The PMR30 magazine is also a major improvement over the original P30.
The PMR is a lot of fun, but unfortunately unable to be suppressed due to the hybrid blowback system, beating itself up badly even with suppressors that weigh just 2 ounces.
PMR30 is an oddball, but nobody else makes anything similar to my knowledge.
S&W copied the Kel Tec concept and the PMR 30 is half the price of the M&P.
S&W copied the Kel Tec concept and the PMR 30 is half the price of the M&P.
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Thanks. I assumed it was a copy.S&W is a totally different design. The Tempo barrel system has gas ports that unlock the locked breech once the bullet passes by.
I have one. Sold my Keltec PMR once I bought it.
Thanks. I assumed it was a copy.
How is the accuracy and reliability between the two?
Since the S&W is using gas is recoil mitigated for follow up shots…should one want quicker follow up shots?
Looks kinda cool. But don’t need another caliber unless someone were to gift me about 5k rounds of the stuff.
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The PR57 is a concealed carry pistol chambered in 5.7x28mm that utilizes a rotary barrel and stripper clips, instead of magazines to achieve a compact, ultra...youtu.be
I understand some of the snobbery towards KelTec. Their pistols are low price, kinda roughly finished and certainly not fine examples of gunsmithing. But they're lightweight, relatively inexpensive and reliable.Looks like they've come full circle, but instead of a .380 loaded by stripper clips it'll be a 5.7 instead.
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