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Kel Tec p-3at: The good?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Blarelli, Nov 25, 2007.

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  1. Blarelli

    Blarelli Member

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    As opposed to the other thread focused on the problems, I wanted to get your opinions on what you like about this gun, how it performs, what accessories you recommend, and what ammunition you personally use in it. I am strongly considering getting one of these to carry to school, as my regular carry gets almost unbearably uncomfortable after 3 hours straight in a desk.
     
  2. MICHAEL T

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    Works every time small and loves Corbon DPX Oh accurate for its size.
     
  3. ugaarguy

    ugaarguy Moderator Staff Member

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    - Has never failed in any way (ok, it stove piped once when a friend who'd never shot a handgun before wanted to try it midway through his first range trip and limp wristed it, but even he had no problems after I told him how to handle it, so I consider that one operator error)
    - Has digested everything from I've fed it from cheap ball to cheap PMC/Eldorado Starfire JHPs to expensive Speer & Hornady JHPs
    - Awesome pocket & neck holster gun
    - 6+1 Rounds of .380 ACP in a package so small & light you can forget you're carrying it
    - Company is US owned & the guns are made in the US by Americans
    - Lifetime Warranty
    - Excellent customer service reputation, but I've never had to try it
    - Very reasonable price
    - Quite accurate for such a minimalist piece.
     
  4. Soybomb

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    Its very small and concealable. Keltec will take care of you if you have problems.
     
  5. mjrodney

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    Ultra, ultra concealable, less than $300, reliable if you hang onto it (no limp wrist holds), large enough caliber at in-your-face distances, American made.
     
  6. CTPistol

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    Its what it is...a reliable cheap pocket gun. Thats the positive!

    Those that complain about trigger reset and sights make me wonder what they bought it for....:confused:

    Its not a fun range gun, its a pocket carry $240 SD gun...and thats it. Its for when the Smith Jframe is just a wee bit bulky in the pocket. P3ATs in a slim holster (I use Galco) can be concealed comfortably in anything you go out in.

    You are asking a lot about the P3AT - Id really suggest the KelTec owners website - WAY more info there.
     
  7. TimboKhan

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    Well, I posted on the bad, so I will post on the good, since I actually do like the gun.

    Extremely concealable
    Extremely Reliable
    Delightful to carry.

    I will answer this for you, although I am only speaking for myself. I bought it because I wanted a gun I could throw into my pocket for those frequent occasions where I am just running out real quick and don't want to put on the full rig. I complain about the trigger and the sights because they are valid complaints: They aren't that great. I can accept that they aren't that great because the role that this gun fills for me does not require target sights and a match trigger. I wish the trigger was a little better, and am going to send it in at some point to have some work done on it, but both the trigger and the sights are plenty good enough for an arms length engagement.
     
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    I have had no issues ever with mine. It is quite accurate if you take the time to aim, but make no mistake about it...this is a point-shoot pistol.

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  9. jwxspoon

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    Totally concealable (back pocket wallet holster), so light you forget you're carrying it, reliable (no failures ever on mine). Corbon DPX is my ammo of choice with this weapon.

    jw
     
  10. ShunZu

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    My wife has had excellent results using Winchester Silvertips. We haven't tried the Corbon DPX, but plan on it after reading this thread. :) Everything's been said already... light, reliable, accurate, inexpensive, and there's nothing wimpy about a .380acp. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. I'm a .45acp bigot personally, but that damn Series 80 GCNM doesn't fit in the back pocket very easily... keep ripping holes in my pockets trying to shove it in there. :)
     
  11. PakWaan

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    ALWAYS there

    The most positive thing about this gun is that you will ALWAYS have it with you. I like my Sig and my Glock better for target shooting, and I would rather have a 9mm with more capacity..... but the simple fact is that if those are too big to carry, you are unprotected. This little gun disappears in your pocket and you almost forget it's there - so you can carry it anywhere.

    I had a few stovepipes when I first got it, but sent it back to Keltec for a fluff and buff and it's been fine ever since.

    A .380 in your pocket will protect you a lot better than the 9mm that you left at home.
     
  12. Shooters Plus

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    As already mentioned - Small and lightweight equals very easy to conceal, even in a pocket. Easy to disassemble and clean. More accurate than what I had expected. Mine now has like 300rds through it and has been 100% reliable.

    Good luck :)
     
  13. Navy joe

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    I owned one and I sold it not because it was unreliable but because I didn't want to keep up with the maintenance that any small auto demands. I'm thinking I'd change the springs every 500 rounds and it had to stay clean. Other than that a locked breech .380 that small is an engineering marvel. I really enjoyed my time with the gun.

    Recommended accessory. The pocket clip. I carried mine just left of centerline clipped in my waistband. The belt hid the clip and the rrst was not noticeable in jeans and a tucked in shirt. I blacked out the frame serial # on the back with a sharpie just so the white letters wouldn't stand out when carrying like that. It is the only gun I ever forgot I was carrying.
     
  14. HisSoldier

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    Ok, now the good;
    1. It disappears. It's barely even there!
    2. Doesn't print too much.
    3 It's very light.
    4. With three dot sights drilled in and filled with bright paint it's fairly accurate.
    5. It's not valuable enough to worry about if it gets lost or destroyed somehow, that is to say, like toilet paper, it's disposable. When you need it use it.:)

    I posted all this in another forum, here is a view of the three dot sights as drilled and filled by myself. The trigger pull is way long but predictable, but if that pin works out you will find yourself squeezing with all your might while the bad guy is shooting you! KelTec FIX THE DESIGN![​IMG]
    P.S. if someone can tell me how to make my photos smaller I'd like to hear it, I knw that's annoying when it's so large. Thanks[​IMG]
     

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    Ala Dan Member in memoriam

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    Mine has ran flawlessly, right from the box. Even with the P3AT's tiny sights,
    I was able to keep several magazines full of mixed ammo in an 8" pie plate at
    15 yards~! Mine is used everyday, as my personal BUG~! ;) :D
     
  16. rcmodel

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    My first generation gun took some fiddling and a lot of break-in before it became 100% reliable. It now has about 2,000 flawless rounds through it.

    The new second gen guns are now coming out of the box working just fine, and are finished better.

    Get one, a thin kydex or leather pocket holster, and an extra mag or two, then break it in with a couple hundred rounds.

    And you won't leave home without it!

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  17. Blarelli

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    Alright, I am convinced. One will be coming home with me in two weeks or so. Now for the specifics.

    Which finish is the best?

    Is it worth ordering the one round magazine extensions?

    And most importantly, does a .380 on a gold chain count as bling?

    I'll have to ask about the fluff and buff when I bring the gun home.
     
  18. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

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    Some like the extended mag and the extra round.
    I don't.

    Personally, I think of the P3AT as the smallest, most powerful handgun I own.

    I think of it as a pocket derringer that shoots 7 shots!

    If I wanted more magazine capacity, more weight, and something that prints more, I should have bought a bigger gun.
    But if I had, I wouldn't carry it 24/7.

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  19. Soybomb

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    Since I'm a reset complainer I'll see if I can help out. Every semi automatic handgun I own has a decently short trigger reset, s&w, walther, even the glock's isn't too long. I like a short reset, I'm used to shooting it from my other guns and it helps me place rapid shots much easier. If all I shot were DA revolvers it wouldn't be a big deal but its probably just a thing of habit. A more glock like reset doesn't seem like too much to ask for.
     
  20. YZR

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    I echo all of the above positives. Mine is the summer carry piece and I love it.
    As far as the finish goes get a regular blued model and have Jack plate the slide: http://www.gunsmith.fuselier.com/slideoffer.html
    The one round extension is on mine alaong with a spare mag with a pinkie extension and it all fits in a KNJ pocket holster.
    Here's the F & B info too: http://ktog.org/tecwerks12a.htm
    KTOG.org has a wealth of knowledge.
    Enjoy your new addition whan you bring her home!
     
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    Well,

    Before the flames get too hot on this topic, I thought I would share my carry ammo choices, etc.

    I use the magazine extension. Why? Because to me, this gun is unshootable without it.

    Ammo, Remington Golden Saber 105 Grain JHP, Corbon 70 Grain. Both work and feed well in this pistol. The Corbon is the preferred stuff since it emulates the feeding of FMJ rounds.

    Holster, I use a Galco PH436 made out of Horsehide. Never had a problem with it. Basically, this is a pocket pistol pure and simple.

    Likes: Size, weight, capacity (7+1) is a nice number for a gun this small.

    Lukewarms: Trigger (at least it's better than the P-11.), QC, plastic checkering on the grip.

    Complaints: That Fluffing and Buffing is even recommended for a NIB gun. Sites, c'mon guys it's easy to make something workable here.

    But hey, it is what it is, an inexpensive pocket pistol that serves its intended purpose very well as a BUG.

    For Primary carry, I want something with some more oomph.
     
  22. Green Lantern

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    1) The plain blue finish has worked ok so far with me. I wanted hard chrome, but had such a hard time finding one in ANY finish that I grabbed the basic one when I had the chance. If I ever get the money ahead (and another gun that conceals so easily while the KT is away), I may get it refinished from Jack.

    2) Depends. If you own a Bersa Thunder (or maybe an NAA Guardian too), you can but the extension from the Bersa mag onto the KT mag. For me, the grip is fine "as-is," and a longer mag won't help concealment - not that it would probably make a HUGE difference. I DO plan on buying a +1 mag for times when the P3AT is my only gun, to carry as a spare.

    3) Uh, probably. ;)

    Ammo - DPX has done 100% in mine, but I haven't been able to put as many rounds through it as I would like to really fell comfy with it. I've had great luck with plain ole Remington 88gr JHPs. Not the hottest load, but not a slouch, and I HAVE put a lot of that round through my P3AT.

    Other stuff - never did a F&B, just a pre-shooting cleaning. Has run 99.9%, with the one error being my fault for limp wristing. I carry it in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. It's in my pocket right now. :) I follow "GoldenLoki's" lube guide ( http://www.goldenloki.com/guns/keltec/care2.htm ).
     
  23. Daemon688

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    My P3AT was good out of the box. It will however start to jam when you get near the 80-100 round mark. A good cleaning however will fix that. I got this pistol because it's tiny. Sights are lousy, trigger isn't the best, and it chews up my hand if I fire it enough. I also wish it had a last round hold open. But since it's not a primary weapon for me, I think the disadvantages are fine.
     
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    HisSoldier, post your photos up to Photobucket. They have a tool to edit your photos to various sizes (800x600 I think for forums, they give you a hint though), rotates, etc. Then just post the IMG link they give you.
     
  25. HisSoldier

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    Thanks Rusty, I'll try that.
     
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