Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by JCooperfan1911, May 25, 2021.
I liked it though other than that. It carried nice.
I had one and really liked it. The only reason I sold it was due to finances. I never had any problem with it, and would buy another.
However, after bragging to my dad about it, I let him shoot it, and the casing flew back and hit him right between the eyes. I thought it was pretty funny, but he wasn't amused.
I had a sub2k rifle sometime before that, that have me problems as well. I didn't sent it back neither. At the time I was young and dumb okay? But anyways I sold it to the gunsmith and moved on. I really like both guns though.
Mine has yet to malfunction beyond the one time the slide closed on an empty case that had fallen back into the ejection port. Yes, I saw it happen.
The PF9 is light and hard-hitting, on both ends. It's rude in the hands, and more than a few magazines at a session will make you feel like you've been high-fiving a hammer, but it's certainly manageable for its intended mission. It does require a determined grip, and is reportedly easy to limp-wrist. Mine feels best with 115-grain ammunition, and that is what it's loaded with, but it's likely sighted more for 124-grain fodder, so it hits a little on the low side beyond 15-20 feet or so. At 25 yards, aimed head shots hit mid-chest.
The trigger is firm and not for the Glock-minded. As a well-experienced revolver shooter, it didn't occur to me that it's crappy until I read it on the Internet. It's neither a Glock trigger nor a match-grade one, but it's perfectly functional in a defensive or fighting context. Pistol snipers, look elsewhere. The trigger action is of a hybrid-DAO mechanism, with the hammer only fully at-rest if it's dropped on an empty chamber (or dud round.) Between chamberings/shots, it's partially-cocked; each trigger pull moves the hammer the rest of the way to the rear and then releases it. The reciprocating slide resets it to that partially-cocked position. There is no "second-strike" capability, but you can reset the hammer by retracting the slide about a quarter of an inch; you'll hear it click.
The Kel-Tec P11, by comparison, has a true DAO trigger/hammer mechanism, with the hammer always fully at-rest.
My blued slide started to rust about two years after I got it (my gun appears to have been made in 2006) so I upgraded to Kel-Tec's hard-chromed one. It's held up well.
With all of the other micro-nines that have arrived since the PF9 opened the market, the KT may not be quite as relevant anymore, especially since interest is shifting toward micro-double-stack nines these days. Still, the PF9 remains the lightest and flattest 9mm pistol on the market with a seven-round magazine (The Diamondback DB9 is smaller, but gives up a round in capacity.) I keep wanting to switch to newer guns, or even older revolvers for carry, as I do appreciate steel, but I keep coming back to the KT because it just makes sense, though I do have a Taurus G2C I have yet to try. Still, for concealability, there is no comparison.
Incidentally, the year after I got it, I bought a new P32 for deep-conceal. It has backed up the PF9 pretty much every day since.
Hope this helps a little..
I got my P3AT in Dec'05 and my PF9 in Jul'07. I still have and carry them both, periodically, and the PF9 was my primary EDG for about 7 years.
Yes, I "Fluffed & Buffed" both ... but I have long done that with all of my new (especially) pistols anyway.
As you can see in the pic below, I carefully thinned the trigger guard and modded some mag extensions so the I could comfortably get all 3 fingers on the grip. What does not appear in the pic is the aluminum replacement trigger that I subsequently installed. Not a fan of the plastic OEM trigger. Very uncomfortable for me.
I have always run mine with 124s and found the accuracy to be more than adequate for what this pistol is.
The little pistol is a shooting-handful but it has always been reliable & accurate for me.
From what I have read over the years, the finish on these guns varies with its "born date". Mine has never rusted even though I have often retrieved it, sweat-soaked, from its carry pocket (in its DeSantis Nemesis holster). I just wipe the outside dry and put it front of a fan for awhile. I have been blessed with relatively non-corrosive perspiration, though. A couple of fellows that I have known over the years could have turned this pistol (heck, any pistol) into a lump of Fe2O3 in a heartbeat.
Off to work on the house water system ... only 33 years online and the Pressure Switch starts getting twitchy on me. Hard to believe.
KelTec forums link ...
Like I said before, I have never had any function issues with mine, I just never could get used to the long trigger pull. I was the same way with the Taurus 24/7 Pro C I had years ago. If you are used to a long double action trigger pull, then the Kel-Tec triggers won't bother you. In my case, I am an old single action guy that is used to the triggers on 1911's and single action revolvers.
I never had a jam, but other people who shot it did. I believe they need to be held pretty solid to function.
Traded it and $100 for a S&W 637-2.
I'll probably get another one someday
I'm not a Kel-Tec hater. I have a P32, and I love it.
after a break in period or equivalent fluff and buff. That's my experience, anyway.
Where they fall short is in the durability department. My P 11 was (after a fluff and buff) reliable enough to be my carry gun. At about 1200-1500 rounds, however, small parts started breaking. First it was this, then it was that. When I would mention that to folks, Keltec fans would say, "Hey...these aren't high round count guns!" to which I would respond, "1200-1500 rounds is a high count??"
I didn't dislike the long stiff Keltec trigger like many shooters do - I felt it was a valid safety feature - but one needs to practice a lot with such a trigger to stay proficient. However, a lot of practice is going to get you to 1500 rounds pretty quickly. Then you need to buy another gun, if my experience is any indication.
If you don't shoot a lot, the Keltecs will last well enough, I suppose, but most people who don't shoot much want easier triggers. I'd stay away from Keltec.
The first day I took it to the range was just one of those rare magical sessions where me and the gun could do no wrong.
First off, I carried the P11 for 11 years before finding my grail EDC (Rohrbaugh), so I was used to a craptacular trigger. Thus, I was ok with the PF 9 trigger.
I started off easy with the gun at 7 yards and was pleased with a bit less than fist sized groups.
Then on to the plate rack. That little tiger just mowed them down. I kept moving back 5 yards at a time and the gun just would not choke. I think I quit pushing my luck at 25 0r 30 yards.
I had so much fun, I burned through somewhere between 200-250 rounds.
Could I repeat those results today? Probably not, but I know what the potential is; besides, I’m 15 years older now.
Even though I don’t carry it, my life does depend on it. It is a stash gun in my shop. Many times I work all through the night till dawn with the over head door wide open and the Keltec within easy reach.
Hardly good testimony in that case, to be fair. The shooter and the target were actively tussling with one another, the gun was fired only once, and it failed to go into battery after that (likely due to being in contact with the target.) Any crap gun that fired its first shot would have delivered similar results. Some would even argue that, in that specific incident, had a second shot been necessary, George would have fared better with a revolver.
Still, I favor the PF9, per post 12 above.
I recall one gun with which I felt the same way, a Bersa Thunder 380. I could not get that one to disappoint me. My PF9 was nearly as good, just more of a handful.
I appreciate that it's light and compact. It currently rides in the handlebar bag of my bicycle.
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