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Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by macarthurite, Dec 8, 2004.

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  1. macarthurite

    macarthurite Member

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    I'm thinking about buying a small pocket gun and need some input on the Kel tec line. I was looking at either the .32 or the .380, does anyone have any experence with them?
    Thanks, Chris
     
  2. mtnbkr

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    I have over 1000 rounds in the P32, great little gun. It's finicky about ammo, but once you find a load it likes, stock up.

    I've shot the P3AT. If it existed back when I bought my P32, I would've bought it instead. It's easy to shoot and recoil isn't as bad as I had been lead to believe. The one I shot was reliable for the mag I ran through it.

    Chris
     
  3. Titus

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    The P3AT isn't too bad to shoot, but it is very thin which I thought felt funny at first. Also, it is double action only. I was used to shooting that way already, so I didn't mind. It's the first pocket pistol that I found was really (pants) pocket sized, for which I would put up with the smaller caliber. I would say, don't pay too much for one, but give it a try.
     
  4. teppo-shu

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    Maybe he's talking about JHP's? I've never had a single jam with any ball ammo on my P32. With such a small pistol / short barrel, I wouldn't even waste money trying to get a hollowpoint to expand, 'cause it's very unlikely to happen.

    Get the P32. It's so small and light, it's the one gun you'll ALWAYS have with you. And it's not unpleasant to practice with, either.
     
  5. wally

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    Get the P3AT. You'll be happy to have the bigger bullet should you ever need it.
    Carries same as a P32.

    Kel-Tec ships a fair number of bad guns, but they will make it right if you send it back. They can get away with it because they are unique in this size/power/weight range and worth the potential hassel should you need to return it.

    They fixed my P3AT very quickly and its had no problems with any brass cased ammo since -- ~900 rounds thru it so far since its return last year about this time.

    Its one gun that is very easy to have with you always.

    --wally.
     
  6. Skofnung

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    I've got the P-3AT and there is nothing else out there quite like it.

    It is SMALL
    It is THIN
    It is LIGHT
    It is ACCURATE at 21 feet
    It BUCKS when fired


    It is not a comfortable gun to shoot, due to the small grip (I have big hands) light weight and sharp edges. After my first range session, I de-horned the trigger and other sharp edges. It is much better now. I suggest you do this as soon as you get it home.

    While the recoil is harsh, it is not that big of a deal. My 100lb Fiancé has no trouble with it.

    In my opinion, loaded with HOT ball ammo, this gun represents the best deep cover/BUG on the market at this time. Your opinion may differ.
     
  7. Onmilo

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    I sell a heck of a lot of the Kel-Tec pistols and they don't come back.
    I personally own a P-32 and while it isn't my first choice in a gunfighting handgun it is a plenty comforting thing to have in my pants pocket when I don't want to carry something bigger.
    The Kel-Tec P-11 9mm is one of our most popular selling handgun lines in the shop for people wanting a home or store defense gun.
     
  8. bubbygator

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    Get a NEW P3AT (serial greater than about HAA##). These have all the new designs & will shoot everything I've put into them with no failures.
     
  9. Lennyjoe

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    I have a P3AT and enjoy it.

    It rides in the pocket very nice and I shoot it pretty well. Accuracy is acceptable at the level its designed for. Well worth the $220 I paid for it.
     
  10. W Turner

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    I have had both the P32 and the P3AT. Not to mention the P11 as well. The only one I still own is the P3AT. I just don't see a need (for me anyway) for the P32 when the P3AT carries a better round in an almost identical package. No chance of rimlock either.

    The P11 is a great little gun and I will probably pick up another one in the future.

    W
     
  11. Highpower1

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    I have a P32. I bought it right after it came out. I currently have 3,500 rounds through it. I carry it EVERYWHERE, it has becomes just as normal to carry it as I carry my car keys.
     
  12. Selfdfenz

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    I got the P3AT.
    It was a jam-o-matic out of the box but I did the fluff and buff and that really helped. It will run a box of hardball now w/o a jam. I think crudding up is now the limiting factor on how long this little gun runs before a jam.

    Negatives: still get an ejected case in the noggin occassionally and that baby really clobbers my trigger finger (two boxes of ammo and it's numb as a can be) and I think it shoots a bit low but that may be me

    Positives: many, many, many, all listed above.

    Get one. Nothing like it for the $.

    S-
     
  13. Wilson 17&26

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    Like others, I own several P-3ATs, P-32s and P-11s. I prefer shooting the P-32 because it has a slide lock. On the other hand, the 380 is a bigger slug. Buy them both, they're cute.
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    Yup, shoot the hottest loads you can out of this gun. I chrono'd standard ammo and because of the short barrel, it's pretty disappointing. But, I loaded up some real hot stuff, and it moves pretty good. Seeing the results of factory ammo out of these guns, I'd stay away from the .32.

    My guess is partly because people shoot a mag or two then carry them.

    That said, I carried my 380 all summer while working a landscaping job. I never cleaned or oiled it. This past September, I pulled the gun out and noticed it was full of sand and dry as heck. I wondered if it functioned and it did, just fine. So with super-hot:evil: loads, this is a great gun.
     
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    My problem was related to the rim thickness on some ammo. Too thin and I have extraction problems. It hates Aguila's 32acp load.

    Chris
     
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    i have both a p11 and a p3at and havn't had a minutes trouble with either. go to www.ktrange.com for a comprehensive discussion of the merits. :)
     
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    I have the P-11 and P32. I have had the P-11 for 4 years now, no problems with many, many rounds fired. I have had the P32 for about 2 years. same deal....no problems. It is my go everywhere gun. It is just so normal to just slip it into the pocket (with a pocket holster, of course). I wouldn't think of being without it, whether backup or primary carry.
     
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    A thumbs up on both the P32 and P11, both are dependable and good hiders. I only wish that the .380 was on the market when I got mine. The customer service is excellent too!!
     
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    The only one I've handled and owned is the P-11, and I love mine. I got it used from a guy that had done all the fluff-and-buff-stuff to it, and it's fed everything that I've loaded it with. I can't say enough good about it.
     
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    I carry P3AT (.380) everyday in my front pocket, jeans or shorts it disappears.

    I have over 1000 rds thru mine, NO problems with it. :)
     
  21. albanian

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    Do a search and you will find mixed reviews on the Kel-Tec P-32. Many people have them and are happy with them but many others have had major problems with them. The overall track record for this gun is not very good, considering it is designed for self defense, it seems to have far too many problems to be considered a good choice. It is a true Saturday Night Special except that it is not even inexpensive.

    It just goes to show you that if you build a cheap gun and charge $50 for it, everyone will say it is a cheap POS but if you build a cheap POS and charge $200 for it, people will say it is a good gun that just needs some work. :neener: It is a cheaply made gun that costs quite a bit of money. Mine had many problems and eventually just broke in my pocket for unknown reasons. I have never been so dissapointed in a gun in all my life and I have owned well over 100 guns in my life.
     
  22. MR.G

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    Have owned one of the P-32, three P-3AT, and two of the P-11 pistols. Only one of the P-3AT, and one of the P-11 pistols have been shot and carried very much. Those two have each been fired over 400 rounds each without any problems, and have been carried a lot. Had some serious doubts about the reliability and durability of the Kel-Tec guns when I first started using them, but they have proven themselves. Until a better gun of equal size and weight comes along, I will carry a Kel-Tec much of the time.
     
  23. 7.62FullMetalJacket

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    And that is a big negative. I have big hands and the little sucker likes to squirt out. I grip up tighter and that trigger guard crushes my finger. No win for me. They are cheeky little things.
     
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    Like others I have several...I carry the P3AT or the P-11 most of the time I leave the house
     
  25. mod12

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    i have found thet people who continually whine about something are usua;;y very negative people who have a personality problem. they can't understand why others don't pay attention to their pos opinions. i've found that most knowledgeable people don't believe the self professed protestations about anything in their sorry lives. just proves what i've said before that it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it.
     
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