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keltec ksg

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by dubya450, Apr 9, 2012.

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  1. dubya450

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    I recently seen an article on the KSG and it looks like a good idea for a self defense shotgun and just cool overall. Any ideas, thoughts or experiences with this gun? Thanks guys.

    Sorry if there is a thread on this shotgun already ..
     
  2. MachIVshooter

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    It's a very unique design, with a great deal of utility. Problem right now is availability; What should be a ~$700 shotgun is selling for upwards of $2k on account of extremely limited supply.

    Stay tuned, there should* be a lot more info and much more reasonable prices within a year.

    *The RFB is still largely vaporware 4 years after it's release.
     
  3. JShirley

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    The LOP was much too long for me, and since it's a bullpup, you can only add LOP, not reduce. Also, the slide release button on the 2011 proto I handled was literally dangerous without gloves.

    John
     
  4. dubya450

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    Wow 2 grand!? Msrp is about 700 like you stated. If i happen to find one at a decent price (under 1k) I think ill jump on it. If i don't like it I should be able to get most of the $ back I'd think with demand being high. As far as the lop, I usually like it longer around 14 inches. Do you know what the actual lop is offhand? What was with the slide release? Sharp or does it pinch? Thanks for the info guys.

    Cory
     
  5. Girodin

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    It is still very rare. If the RFB is any indication, it will continue to be for some time. It is neat in that it holds a lot of rounds and is a small package.

    Personally, I would rather have a quality auto loader for SD.

    There is zero chance I would pay $2k for something built by KT, and yes I have owned a number of KTs. There is also no way I would pay $2k for the KSG kel tec quality issues aside.

    Realistically it offers very little over to nothing for any kind of remotely likely HD scenarios over available guns. And if one wants a serious overkill HD shotgun the KSG (even assuming it will be bug free) would not be my first choice.
     
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    I want one because it looks cool: I will probably never buy one because I only want one because it looks cool.
     
  7. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I have not shot mine but everyone I have shown it to really likes it and all of its features.
    I think the slide release is a very well thought design. The only thing I see a few people having problems with is the bottom rail is not metal like the top rail and it is chipping or breaking when a single point hand grip is used on a few off them.

    I got mine because it is a very nice design, I have other shotguns but I have more than one rifle and more than one pistol also.
     
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    The slide release on the proto was sharp. Would work okay with thin shooting gloves, but literally dangerous without.
     
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    There was a Nutnfancy "trial" where a guy from Kel-Tec tested one on an informal shotgun course; it worked well most of the time, but he forgot to switch tubes a couple times and it had more jams than I'd like to have in a shotgun intended for defense.
     
  10. Jon Coppenbarger

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    i love where the slide release is and how the heck and why? are you even getting you fingers to the front of the trigger guard unless you are going for the release lever and I know I have only hit the lever about 100 times and have never thought that it was sharp.

    And as far as it not working properly I have not shot it yet so it may give me problems that I will find out. I would hope they got the bugs worked out by now but will find out. So when did you guys get to hold it.
    2011 shot show? and when was that demo like last month as if it was last month where was it as I want to know so I can talk to kel-tec and ask why they either have a idiot for a demo guy or they are trying to push out a bad product.

    help me guys as I need some names and dates.
     
  11. metalart

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    The prototype had a different slide release.. It was changed on the production model.
     
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    KelTec KSGs are pos.Don't buy one.Get a Saiga or other proven design.KT has the worst QC in the industry.You would be better off with a Raven.
     
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    I also would like to buy one but like the above poster, mainly because it is unique and looks the berries. But $800-900 would be my high water mark.
     
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    Jon Coppenbaargeer you have a KSG you haven't shot it and it is chipping?
    Blackhawk30. I'll take a Kel-Tec over a Raven anyday of the week.
    ll
     
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    I always find it funny when somebody who has never handled something calls it a POS.

    Get a Saiga? http://goo.gl/uxRm2 WOW, just based on that search I would say Saigas are POSes.

    KT has the worst QC in the industry? S&W... rusting M&P slides, first few batches of M&P 15-22 were jam-o-matics Kimber... first production run of the Solo? Ruger... recalls anyone? Taurus... need I say more. etc etc etc Every manufacturer has hiccups.
     
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    One of my LGS has one in stock for 1300. Handled it in person. It's a very neat design, and very short. I would get one for HD just for it's low overall length. The double capacity over standard pump shotguns is just a bonus IMO. It's real utility is the length, light materials, and integrated rails.
     
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    somebody needs to learn how to read I said the one of the problems I see some folks were having was the bottom rail. did not say I was having the problem.

    Did you even know the ksg comes with a part to put on the rail to help with the grip. how do you rate that part?

    One good reason we have the forms is to share info. with guns I recieve or I am looking at I like to seek the pros and cons of the product to see if I either want to own it or if I do pick it up what to expect from it if I do bring it home.

    Now I am sure there will be problems with this product in general but that happens with most products as we usually only hear of the bad things.

    If I remember correctly the original poster ask a few questions and I was able to give a point from more than one of them.

    Now I thought I would leave out the things that were addressed with the prototype.

    The slide release for one. The problem with holding the trigger down after it was fired and then pumping it caused it not to reset and other problems that were addressed before it came out.

    now with the bottom rail? with a ar or other firearm that you just use a front fore grip you pretty much just use it to help hold and steady the weapon. but with the ksg you are actually using it to help pump the weapon. folks are saying to try and use a grip that is shorter to help keep from using extreme leverage compared to using a longer grip. Or to use a grip that spreads out the contact point on the rail instead of one with a single contact point.

    I can see maybe in the future a new front on the ksg in some kind of way to address the problem.
     
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    I would like one just because it looks cool and I like shotguns. However, for actual home defense, I find it just a little too complex. I hope I don't need THAT many rounds to end an altercation or else I was in bigger trouble than I could handle already.

    7+1 is just fine for me. Heck, even 4 in the tube set to cruiser carry should be enough.

    That said, I would shell out around $700 for one if it fell into my lap. Looks like a lot of fun. I still think I'd stick with my Remington and Ithaca for HD duty, though.
     
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    The KSG does look cool, but I'm saving up for a semi-auto AA-12. :)
     
  21. boricua9mm

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    Hmmm, on another thread we have people declaring that Benellis are too expensive, but here on this thread it seems the venerable membership is genuinely interested in a pump action shotgun that uses a bolted together clamshell construction with a price point above $1k.

    Interesting.....:uhoh:
     
  22. Jon Coppenbarger

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    I went on benelli's web sight and could not find a bull pump the holds 12 or 14 rounds that list around $880?
    I have a bunch of shotguns that are worth more than $1k and they are not benneli's either so what does that prove?

    did not know this was a post on benelli's.
     
  23. boricua9mm

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    You're just not tracking....
     
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    KelTek's wet dream shotgun.

    You'll find them on your neighborhood retailers shelf, right next to the Glock magazine 9mm Sub2k's ....
     
  25. Master Blaster

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    I don't see how this is as Good as Saiga for HD, and for shotgun games or hunting its Useless.

    JMHO YMMV
     
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