Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Gelgoog, Jan 2, 2011.
I hope it fits my "BackUp Bedside Gun Rack" - might be too thick!
Just saw this today.
At the risk of perpetuating a tired, stupid, gun-owner stereotype...
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Want. Anything that mean looking must go into my gun safe.
Proposed name-change: "The SplatBlaster Kill-o-Nator."
I have a better one: "Abomination Pump".
Wake me when they come out with a viable double barreled pump shotgun.
Mr. Lee, two words: "Remington 1740". Search on those here, as its designer is a THR'er...
Mr. Lee expressly stated "viable".
i like it and will try and get one in the future...
but i can already see a problem with LEOs use.....
"officer involved in shooting claims he thought swtich was on other tube"
could seriously see accidents happen if LEOs attempt to use this with bean bags in one tube and live rounds in the other....
** tho i think this is a great candidate for NON-lethal LEo gun
one tube loaded with bean bags the other loaded with those shotgun taser rounds....
Only if it's marked as a dedicated Less-Lethal Weapon, say with a series of orange caution-stripes along its length. Buck in one pipe, slug in the other is more likely for a "street load"...
I don't think any police department with a chief that has an ounce of sense would try that. Less lethal shotguns are expressly designated as such, and the only ones used in that capacity.
Looks like a piece of garbage if you ask me.
I hate to say it but I wanna cheat on my mossberg now
Pretty damned expensive for a Keltec. At least according to Davidson's:
socal gun store taking preorders $720.00
MSRP might be that, but it seems the real price will be a couple hundred cheaper. I wouldn't be surprised to see this one going for $550 or so. It may be more in the beginning, obviously.
But... I don't think it's going to come out until 4Q of this year, at the earliest. Too early for preorders, IMO.
The Gun Source is taking preorders for it at $673.99. So yea.
Well at least you have given a well reasoned basis for that opinion.
Rumor has it, it will be produced in the US.
Nutnfancy doing runs with the KSG! Looks pretty good to me.
Apparently they've been running Brenneke slugs through it too. My biggest concern would be that the mechanisms would crack apart under that kind of recoil.
For people, yes. But not for animals. I've been running into a lot of black bear that I don't want to have to kill, but they can be pushy beasts. Trying to dig out spray and have a lethal backup handy at the same time is all but impossible in a pinch. But if this can truly deliver a bean bag to ward off the mother black bear or cub, then swap to slugs for the followup, I could actually get some use out of it. A screwup on the tubes would be unfortunate, but hardly a tragedy.
It all depends on how fast it can switch gears and how reliable it is. I'm skeptical, but maybe they will work the bugs out.
Well, being a hunter and preferring hunting arms, I'm not interested. I could finally get that BPS 10 gauge if I had that kinda scratch. Just wondering, though, being a southpaw shooter (one reason to love the BPS) is that thing southpaw capable? Most bullpups, even if I liked 'em (they balance horribly) would mess up my face.
Yes, it is fully ambidextrous and is also bottom-ejecting. It would be great for lefties.
It's supposed to be fully ambi and it the shells eject downwards.
Mmm, probably the old Ithaca/Browning BPS action, perhaps with mods, but sounds like it. Cool. Kel Tec has another pup, a .308, expensive. The spent rounds come out a tube at the front of the gun. It's weird in the videos, but I reckon Kelgren thought of lefties. Most pups are conversions of normal rifles and, thus, are not ambi.
It wouldn't be tragic if you shot slugs when you meant to shoot bags, it would be if you shot bags when you needed slugs. Really, it would make more sense to just load 1 bean bag followed by slugs in just about any pump gun for this scenario. If you need more bean bags for a second ecounter later that day, stick some in your pocket.
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