Keltecs new 14 shot bullpup shotgun (neostead revived!)

[Mike1234567]

Why can't American companies make a better shotgun? The Saiga seems like the ideal concept. kel-Tec is very close. I'd like the Kel-tec better if it was semi-auto, tube automatically switched, some sort of indicator of the number of rounds left in tube.

It's simple: create shotguns with dual tubes, auto tube switcher, semi-auto, faster reloads, multiple loads. If Saiga can do it, someone else can too.

While I agree, the Saiga is a completely different animal with removable mags/drums. I prefer removable mags and bought a S-12 just before the latest ban scare drove the prices up... again.

 

[daorhgih]

Holding out.

I have my order in for my TROMIX® AR-shotgun. Costs less than a Safe-queen 1911. Dao.

 

[janobles14]

Someone needs to do a semi-auto shotgun in a configuration like this.

id give that somewhere just under a minute before the atf declares it a "destructive device."

 

[mopar92]

Tromix AR shotgun? Proof

 

[daorhgih]

@ mopar92:

proof; see: //www.tromix.com/ Article begins just below the Lady Liberty. Tony is all booked for 2011. Sorry. He has MY $1250.00 Dao.

 

[Maverick223]

Tromix AR shotgun? Proof

Not really a true AR, but it is styled as such and probably uses the same lower...the following is an image from their site. If you have further questions/interest I'd send Tony Rumore a PM (Note: I am not, in any way, affiliated with Tony or Tromix).

 

[snakyjake]

Why isn't it a true AR?
Anyone know if it is gas or piston?

 

[Youngster]

Why isn't it a true AR?
Anyone know if it is gas or piston?

It shares very little with an AR mechanically and uses a piston situated below the barrel.

Anyway I don't know if I'd buy an MKA-1919 but the idea of an AR style 12 gauge shotgun is a lot more interesting to me than a bullpup pump, hopefully some American manufacturer steps up to the plate with one of their own.

 

[Maverick223]

Why isn't it a true AR?

Look at the upper...it extends past the front of the lower (now that I look more closely, the lower is a bit longer too), the charging handle is attached to the carrier, and the handguard is larger to accommodate the larger bbl/gas tube. It really has little to do with the AR design other than appearance.

Anyone know if it is gas or piston?

Pretty sure it uses a short stroke gas piston, as direct gas impingement would likely be to difficult to properly adjust for different loads.

 

[kozak6]

Not really a true AR, but it is styled as such and probably uses the same lower

I wouldn't be surprised if the only AR compatible parts were the sights.

The lower, pistol grip, and stock are all a one piece plastic casting. The telestock in the pic above is a custom modification.

I found a disassembly pic. My guess is that it's most of the guts of their sporting semiauto shotgun shoehorned into an AR style shell and modified to feed from a box mag.

 

[max popenker]

Why isn't it a true AR?
Anyone know if it is gas or piston?

you can find description of the MKA 1919 shotgun at the following link: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/tr/akdal-mka-1919-e.html

 

[daorhgih]

Picky-Picky-Picky

I'll still buy one !!