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KIMBER custom II... whadaya thank about it

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by NorthBorder, Nov 3, 2022.

  1. NorthBorder

    NorthBorder Member

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    Been looking at a used one for about a week, now. Just seeking opinions. Also saw anew SA Garrison 9mm. Price is $749, or $200 higher than the used Kimber. Don't have much experience with either 1911.
    Thanks in advance
     
  2. JTQ

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    Kimber's are pretty good values at the Custom II price point.

    The key thing to understand with the Custom II is the presence of the Swartz style firing pin block. It is neither good or bad, but Kimber is the only company using that particular firing pin safety design in their 1911's. The Colt Series 80 is used by more companies, but both are effective firing pin safety designs.

    If you value a firing pin block, as is found in nearly every modern semi-auto pistol, the Springfield Armory won't have one. However, many if not most, other 1911's won't have one either.
     
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  3. Howland937

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    What round is the Kimber chambered in? Are you wanting a .45 or 9mm? About all the Kimber pistols I'd ever owned were either Custom II's or Custom LW's. Never had any problems out of them and for something in the $600 or less range they were great. I do feel like the Springfield is an upgrade and 9mm in a steel 1911 is pure joy to shoot (even if it's frowned upon by traditionalists).

    I just got to a point where the extra couple hundred $ was worth it to me to get something that felt like it was made better. It may well be my imagination, but it does feel like there's a difference.
     
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  4. frogfurr

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    I have a Kimber, Colt, and Dan Wesson 1911. The Kimpro finish on the Kimber is not very durable and has not held up as well as the parkerized finish on the Colt or the Duty Treat finish on the Dan Wesson. The Kimber is not as reliable as the Colt or Dan Wesson. It doesn't run as well.
     
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  5. SDGlock23

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    Buy the Springfield, don't spend your money on Kimber.
     
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  6. Charlie98

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    Sooooo... a used Kimber Custom II for $550??? Unless there is just something blatantly wrong with it... that price is pretty hard to beat...

    My slightly Bubba'd up Two-tone Custom II (top)... just got it this summer, to go with my 2 4" Kimbers...

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  7. derek45

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    I'd skip the Kimber Swartz and get the Springfield
     
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  8. Charlie98

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    Of my 2 4" Kimbers pictured above, the Pro Eclipse II (L) has the Swartz, the Pro Carry (R) does not. The safety mechanism is virtually transparent. Of the two, I'd say the Eclipse has the better trigger...
     
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  9. JTQ

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    For the OP - This will be the case for most users.
     
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  10. Bottom Gun

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    I've had a lot of different 1911's in the past and Kimbers are some of my favorites.
    I've never had one that wasn't 100% reliable.
    I really like Kimber.
     
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  11. Jim Watson

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    It is a crap shoot.

    That is pretty cheap. I wonder why it is on the market. Is it in a store or a private sale?
    Could test firing be arranged or a satisfaction guarantee?

    SA has sent out some pretty sad Prodigies, and I read of a single stack with similar flaws.
    I would demand the dealer to handle return shipping on warranty if it were a dud.
     
  12. Coyote3855

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    I have had Colts, Springfields, STIs, and one Kimber. It is the only 1911 of the bunch that fed everything I put in it from day one, 200 grain SWCs, all defensive ammo I've tried, and of course FMJ.

    But then I have KelTecs I like as well, so my gun judgement is probably suspect.
     
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  13. NorthBorder

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    A lot of love for Kimber and even some trepidation. Same for Springfield Armory. I almost decided on the SA Garrison last evening but the LGS was closed before I could return. The Kimber is at Cabela's. These shops are about 90 miles for my home so I've got time to hear more arguments before I decide. In another week Cabela's may dicker on the price of the Kimber. Thanks for all the opinions so far.
     
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  14. CNobbe

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    Springfield paid shipping both ways, had to send my SA-35 back. No need to take it to the dealer.
     
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  15. South Prairie Jim

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    The last time I checked Kimber, they all have the same safety and the same trigger design and break.
    Has something changed ?
     
  16. Jim Watson

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    Fedup will no longer ship a pistol for an American. I don't know what they will do if you have a company label, though.
     
  17. Bazoo

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    I’d go used kimber. And I’m anti firing pin block. I generally like springfields and carried one for a decade. Wish I still had it.
     
  18. JTQ

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    I'm not sure what your question is.

    If it is regarding the firing pin safety, usually Kimber's with "II" (2) designation have a firing pin safety, while those without the "II" designation (usually) don't have the firing pin safety.

    If you're talking about the thumb and grip safety's, well, that's different.
     
  19. South Prairie Jim

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    I know what it is I’ve owned Kimber
     
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  20. JTQ

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    I'm not following this post, either.
     
  21. South Prairie Jim

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    Let’s start over, are you saying Kimber has two models ? One with Swartz and one without ?
     
  22. JTQ

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    Aha, this I understand.

    Yes, Kimber has two configurations, those with a firing pin safety, known as Series II, and those without a firing pin safety and those don't have a II designation.
     
  23. Old Dog

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    Kimbers that do not have the "II" designation do not have the Swartz FPS.

    I've owned four Kimber series II (CDP Pro, Tactical Pro, TLE II, Eclipse) with the Swartz FPS. All the triggers were fine, especially the TLE II's, which was excellent.

    Sometimes there are good deals on used Kimber 1911s out there -- especially since there are some haters, er, those without a high regard for Kimbers -- who don't value them much.

    I'm a little disappointed with the quality of my most recent Springfield Armory 1911s (and I've always been a huge SA fan). Give Kimber a try.
     
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  24. CNobbe

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    So, the same as USPS and UPS. The two Sigs, S&W, and CZ I sent back were all on labels created by the companies. I just dropped em off at the local FedEx office and were returned to my home address.
     
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  25. Jim Watson

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    When was that? Anti gunowner policy by common carriers is pretty recent.
     
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