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Knife clip exposed: legality?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by CDR_Glock, Feb 20, 2011.

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  1. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Member

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    Knife in pocket with clip exposed. I see this all the time. What are the rules on this?

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    What knives are legally eligble? This pic happens to be an OTF AUTO.

    I am in Florida.

    How is this handled in SC? VA? MD? NC? GA?
     
  2. bikerdoc

    bikerdoc Moderator Staff Member

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    In Va auto is a no-no, clips dont get a second look.
     
  3. kingpin008

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    Same in MD. Unless you're directly interacting with a cop, having a knife clip visible isn't an issue - and it'd likely not be an issue even to the cop. Autos are a no-no, however.
     
  4. GRIZ22

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    What are the rules on this?

    I don't know of anywhere you can't have an exposed clip. However, there are so many state laws and a plethora of local ordinances and somewhere its probably not permitted.
     
  5. nalioth

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    Exposed pocket knife clips are as legal as exposed belly buttons and unrestrained children in the grocery store in the free states.

    Can't speak to the tryin-to-be-commie states, though.
     
  6. OcelotZ3

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    In some states, the only way to legally carry an auto knife is if it is visible. The visible clip covers that case.
     
  7. dcdub

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    I am in NC and often SC and have never had an issue with this with law enforcement. I go to many concerts and have been stopped going into one in Asheville (freakshow) once. I could have had my kel tec in my waistband and they never would have known, and my Leatherman wasn't in issue, but they saw the clip and asked me to hide it in the bushes. As far as autos go here, I'm pretty sure they're illegal unless you're LEO or EMT/Paramedic.
     
  8. HBrebel

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    my knife has a detachable clip is that legal? J/K had to say it haha
     
  9. Daemon688

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    exposed clip in NYC is a big no no.
     
  10. xcgates

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    In other words, if you haven't figured it out by now, knife laws are even more arbitrary and fragmented than firearm laws, at least as far as I've figured.

    I'm not entirely sure about why, but I suspect it was because knives aren't as sexy at high levels of government as evil guns.

    Even so, I carry one standard folder (Gerber Paraframe), and one assisted opener (another Gerber, but looking to replace it.). I don't worry too much about where I go, and if I look like I'm going to be somewhere with security, I either ditch them somewhere recoverable, or (like I did at one amusement park) stashed the knives in the same pocket as my flashlight. Metal detector went crazy, I mention a metal flashlight, and get passed through.

    Granted I never spent much time in cities until movie to San Antonio, so I never really worried about what I was carrying. (Try finding someone in rural America that doesn't have at least a knife.)

    ::EDIT:: I am thinking about getting a dark Kershaw Leek, as I had one I loved, and mostly wear dark colored clothes, so the clip would blend in better. That and I can get that sheath for it cheaply and easily.
     
  11. dayid

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    Since you are in the state of Florida, I'll post what Florida cares about:

    As there are no other laws that note anything illegal about carrying a "common pocketknife", it is legal. There's nothing in the lawbooks about it being visible or concealed. There is no definition of "common pocketknife" in Florida state statutes; however,

    So, here you'll have to hope on people recognizing what a "common pocketknife" is. The idea here is to stop idiots from carrying about swords, huge fixed-blade knives, etc.
     
  12. Frank Ettin

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    In California, an auto would be a serious problem. But a concealed folder, even with the clip showing, is just fine under state law.
     
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    Seems it would be a good argument that it wasn't concealed, otherwise the officer couldn't see it!
     
  14. BigRugerLover

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    I'm told that in New York City it is an invitation to getting frisked, and if the COP can open your knife with one hand then you have an arrest and weapons charge to deal with.

    +BRL
     
  15. mp510

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    The NYC Administrative Code prohibits carrying visible knives unless you are actually using the knife, or are carrying it for specified recreational or occupational endeavors. This has been on the books since Koch but has been enforced with greater vigor recently. When you are stopped, and the cops check the knife, they can (and likely will) charge you with CPW if the knife can be flicked open (either by holding the handle or blade, per case law) since that qualified it under the statutory definition of a gravity knife.
     
  16. Black Toe Knives

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    NYC, Second the big NO NO
     
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    xcgates wrote:

    You are absolutely right. I wish all states had preemptive knife laws.

    I don't know if you are aware, but San Antonio has a city ordinance prohibiting all knives that "lock" open. :mad:
     
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    Flintknapper said:

    What does that mean?
     
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    As long as autos are legal and the size is legal I see no problem.
     
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    No one person knows all the knife laws for all localities. It's simply not possible in the U.S. because cities all have their own knife laws. But I'm not aware of any place that has a rule about unconcealed knives and the knife clip makes it unconcealed.
     
  21. mp510

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    IN NYC, a visible clip is enough to get you cited for the Admin code violation.
     
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    I don't think that there are any folding knives in the world that couldn't be opened with one hand somehow. Even a Buck style with the heel lock can be opened one handed.
     
  23. Ironclad

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    Im so glad I live in Missouri. I didn't even realize there were laws about carryin knives til I read this thread. The only trouble I ever had with a knife was when I went through the metal detector at the courthouse with one when I was 12 or 13. The deputy just offered to hang on to it til I came back out to save me a trip back to mom's car.
     
  24. thorn726

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    i could definitely see a cop who was looking to be a pain call that "concealed" in the city, but flicked open is supposed to be OK (here) and a legal folder is legal to conceal, so no problem as long as it is under 3 inches or whatever your locality says (love Berkeley jerk rules, it's 2.5 inches here, then the UC adds extra troubles on campus)
    TROUBLE is cop deciding he wants to know how long it is since he cant see it, but sees enough of it.
     
  25. Guillermo

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    knife laws are stupid but since we have to live with them I guess they must be addressed. (sigh)

    logically speaking I don't see how a clip makes the knife "exposed". Lots of things have clips.

    Just because logic dictates something does not mean that there is not an issue with a cop. They often do not know the law. Post 11 pretty much answers your question in Florida.

    And in Florida doesn't have a concealed handgun law...it is a concealed WEAPON law. Just make sure it is concealed and you can carry a cudgel.
     
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