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Knife Rights victory in New York!

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by hso, May 31, 2019.

  1. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

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    Finally! After two previous separate attempts to get the governor of NY to stop vetoing and sign Knife Rights bills that stops the NYC abuse of the definition of a gravity knife the city used to arrest and prosecute hundred of citizens by claiming a common lock blade folding knife is an illegal gravity knife that were passed by the legislature, he relents! Third time's the charm, but don't relax completely if you're in NYC since there are other abuses of our rights as knife owners and there are more struggles to win. Thanks to all the knife makers and manufacturers that support Knife Rights and to all the knife owners that donate to the cause. Freedom isn't free and the fight for our rights goes on.

    https://kniferights.org/legislative...sWgs_G39HitVfL1bseAHxCWxoy8v8INXP8cuxDnHBnu-w
     
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    Ridiculous, the abuse of power and the judiciary system.:cuss:
     
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  3. hso

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    It's been going on for years in NYC. Estimates are that 3,000 to 5,000 people have been snared every year by this abuse in NYC. As important as this legislative win is supporting Knife Rights to continue their fight in the courts to make NYC pay for this abuse.
     
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    Nice work! I've seen arrests made under the guise of illegal poss. of a gravity knife when the officer held the blade rather than the scales, and flicked their wrist to open it.

    Looking at the bill, it seems gravity knives have been completely removed from the list of items illegal to possess.

    Switchblades seem to be going in the opposite direction. The highest court in NY, the NYS Court of Appeals, held assisted opening knives met the definition of switchblades, which continue to be illegal, even to possess, let alone carry.

    The exception is an arcane provision in the Penal Law making switchblade possession legal for use during hunting, trapping, or fishing while in possession of the appropriate sport's license. Good luck trying to convince a member of the NYPD of that. lol
     
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  5. GEM

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    There is significant fishing around NYC. Having lived there, we would go out from Sheepshead Bay to get bluefish. I think the Central Park lake even has some fish. Certainly, the rivers do. Whether I would eat them nowadays - I hear they are cleaning up, but. On the other hand, we didn't have licenses in those days.
     
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  6. straightshooterjake

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    There is an article about this decision in the New York Times:

    The ‘Gravity Knife’ Led to Thousands of Questionable Arrests. Now It’s Legal.


    The article says that the NYPD issued a statement which says that "The public should also be aware that the possession of gravity knives in the New York City subway system remains illegal." The article gives no further details about restrictions on the subway, and I have not seen these restrictions mentioned in other articles on the subject.

    If anyone has more details, I'd be interested to hear about it. I am particularly interested in whether they are still using the previous definition of gravity knives in some contexts, since I believe that definition is fundamentally flawed.

    I never expect to be in NYC, much less on the subway, but I am still interested in this fight over judicial fairness.
     
  7. hso

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    Knife Rights would appreciate your support.
     
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    Huge win.
     
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