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Laid Off - How do I justify shooting?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by whitebear, Mar 14, 2003.

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  1. whitebear

    whitebear Member

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    I was laid off yesterday after 9 years at the same company - a once thriving organization drug down in the wake of the Enron scandal. (I make no apologies for the management - they made some major mistakes to put the company in the position it's in.)

    I now have a lot of time on my hands. Money is not going to be a problem for about 3-4 months due to a decent severance package - but I have a wife and three kids depending on me.

    Shooting relaxes and calms me - but how do I justify spending money on ammo when we may need the cash down the road?

    Please, help me sooth my troubled mind - or at least come up with a decent rationalization!
     
  2. jsalcedo

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    When I was struggling I just stopped eating out, bought less junk food canceled my cable TV, cell phone, caller ID and all the other less than necessary luxuries.

    Oh yeah and stopped buying beer.

    I just shot .22's and .38 special reloads for a while.
     
  3. MitchSchaft

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    You can't justify it. Your kids are more important than you being relaxed by taking a trip to the range.
     
  4. Steve Smith

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    umm...don't shoot, then you don't have to justify irresponcibility?
     
  5. critter

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    Sorry bout your circumstances. Hopefully they will improve soon.

    Hay, you already answered your own question-it soothes and calms you. Nobody can worry or fret when concentrating on sight picture and trying to remain calm in the face of all the noise and recoil of the shot.

    Spend it shooting-OR give a LOT more to a shrink!

    Best wishes!
     
  6. TarpleyG

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    Don't just sit there. Find a job right now and save that money. Can't find a job you think you want? Work at a temporary gig. Don't know where you live or what you qualifications are but to me, no job should be beneath you. You may not get the $$$ you expect/want/deserve but a paycheck is a paycheck. Use any spare time looking for a real job. Work weekends at the temp job to free up a couple of days in the week for interviews. As for shooting, moderation is key. Spending will now fall into one of two categories: needs and wants. Good luck.

    GT
     
  7. foghornl

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    You have to go shoot, but shoot cheap. If you watch the sales, .22LR is frequently under $0.02 a round i.e 500 round bricks for $7 works out to $0.014 a shot.
     
  8. Waitone

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    Been there and still doing that.

    Sorry to hear you get to take the hit for someone else's decision, etc. That's the way America is. In today's economic environment people responsible for bad decisions, corruption and so forth are typically not the ones who pay the price.

    Enough.

    While you're out looking for a job in a chronic recession during a period of impending war, you will fight your greatest battle in your head. Shoting is a magnificant way of breaking the cycle of tension, self-blame, humiliation, and anger.

    I've cut back on everything but shooting. I've shifted from pricey ammo such as .45 to the more affordable .22LR. I try to shoot 2 times per week.

    I'm still optimistic about finding a job. Good news is I am a much better pistol shooter than I was before laying off. My advice is give up on something else. Your head is more important than cash in the pocket.
     
  9. Old Fuff

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    Sorry about you're problems, I've been there too. What you do depends a bit on what kind of guns you usually shoot. Maybe this will help.

    1. Do a lot of dry-firing (center-fire guns only) it's an important part of a complete training/practice program.

    2. Stick to .22 R.F. if you can. An air-powered pellet gun may be even better cost-wise if you have access to one.

    3. If possible use handloaded ammunition to keep the cost down. Aren't set up to load? Maybe a helpful buddy is. Ask around.

    4. When and if you do go out to shoot cut out ammunition-eating rapid fire drills and stick to developing your marksmanship skills. Fifty rounds of careful shooting only costs 1/3 of firing 150 rounds.
     
  10. hansolo

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    I can relate

    Sorry to hear of your lay-off. I feel that having this hobby(obsession)keeps me happy. If I thought I wouldn't be able to go to the range for a long while, well:banghead:

    I'm not saying spend the rent money on ammo, but, ration it, go shooting and be really "up" for job interviews. Just my two pennies.

    Good luck!
     
  11. whitebear

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    Mitch and Steve - I'm more than well aware of my responsibilities! :D :( :D My question has some serious intent, but was more meant as a way to vent a little anxiety through some "graveyard" humor. Don't worry - my family are certainly my first and foremost concern.

    I will stick with already-purchased ammo and components - sunk costs, don't ya know.

    This is really a new position for me - I haven't been unemployed for more than two weeks for the last 20 years, and this is the first time I have not had a job since my marriage 11 years ago. So please, be gentle with me! ;)
     
  12. Cal4D4

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    TarpleyG & foghornl said it all. Switch to .22lr or pellet gun to decrease economic impact on the family - they come first. Get any reasonable job for your own peace of mind. Like it or not we define ourselves and self worth by the work we do. Whatever you find may develop into a career. Job change is one of the most stressful events in life (per the "experts"). We have all been thru it and it is survivable. Even without the money issues, people need to keep busy and keep up their work habits. Best to you Whitebear, a few months of cushion will get you into another job. Start looking now and maybe that severance package will end up a bonus to enjoy while working your new gig.
     
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    I just spent several months unemployed myself. I didn't shoot one round the whole time. It sucked, but that's the breaks.

    I'm looking to make up for lost time now though...in a big way :)

    - Gabe
     
  14. Pilgrim

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    One of the benefits of stockpiling ammuntion in the good times.

    As others said, be disciplined in your shooting. Use the trips to the range to talk to people. You just might run into someone who knows someone who knows someone who can offer you a job.

    Bruce
     
  15. MitchSchaft

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    It's ok whitebear. If I were in your shoes, I'm sure I would cut costs somewhere to have some cash for the range.
     
  16. Blackhawk

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    So, you've got time to solve your income problem before the 3-4 months are up. Your job is getting another suitable job, and every interim job you take stretches the deadline.

    Work the problem....

    Good luck! :D
     
  17. whitebear

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    Thanks for the input and support!

    I have already been working on several things - a business plan for a niche business which doesn't exist (yet) in Tulsa, an updated resume, contact lists, networking plan, all that survival stuff ya gotta do when you're 46, and not so pretty any more...:D

    I really think I am still in shock - I'll probably get slapped by reality in about a week.

    Please keep the suggestions coming!
     
  18. megatronrules

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    Yeah shoot .22's. As someone who was unemployed for many, many months I can tell you its all I could shoot. Im sure you will find work soon. It can be hard to stay positive, believe me here.
    Also if you have a friend who reloads, and you trust his work, you can get ammo real cheap that way too :)
    Good Luck :)
     
  19. Sven

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    Time to switch to .22LR. Spare the indoor range and shoot outside, if possible.
     
  20. moa

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    You are not eligible for unemployment benefits?

    Latest news out is that the average job search is seven months. That is average remember.

    I do not know what your profession is, but if you are in IT or are an engineer, the following article ought to frost your gonads. From today's Washington Times, commentary article by economist Paul Craig Roberts.

    http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20030314-76669173.htm
     
  21. waterdog

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    Shoot 22lr, find yourself a job.

    waterdog
     
  22. coonan357

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    Whitebear , I can feel for you guy , As I have been here (unemployed ) twice in the last year and last time it was six months , (so far this time 2 months plus unable to recieve comp ) shooting is my relaxation also , I reload so the stock piles of powder and slugs are slowly dwindling , I have looked into the part time gig also but no one wants a 36 year old teenager , as the cost of gasoline goes up and money depletes I have cut out al luxury items , and the computer is not one sine this is how I look for jobs . just limit how much you are going to shoot , I know it is hard to do but , you have to do it . remember stay away from fast foods, magizines ( reading or hi cap type :D ) as they are the biggest culpret of money usage . and plan everything try to do errands while out on interviews or pounding the streets . I wish you luck in finding work, I hope I get back to work before they start foreclosing on my house .
     
  23. HSMITH

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    Get out and get some sort of job, don't sit back on your little pile of cash. I did that a little over a year ago and it was a mistake. It is going to take a long time to put that money back together. I only took 3 months off and it hurts to this day when I want to spend some cash and it just isn't there. If I had made even just $1800 a month I would be a lot better off right now.

    Shoot some 22lr, a hundred or so, spread out the time and ammo. I did some shotgun shooting with shells I had loaded and hoarded when I was off and it DOES help.
     
  24. Jesse H

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    eek

    Saw the thread title of your post and thought you went postal after getting laid off. :p

    Just shoot .22, that's what I do.
     
  25. Pheonix

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    WAIT!! You lost your job AND you own guns!!!

    Obviously you need to practice shooting so that you can rob people:banghead:

    :D

    Sorry too many antis today.
     
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