Crazy Horse
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Does anyone know where this police emblem is from? Saw a S&W 40 cal with the emblem engraved on the slide.
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Jakemedic
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I believe it is a Brinks logo. Just my opinion.
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Crazy Horse
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It could be, I wouldn't think an armory in Law enforcement would allow a firearm to get that dirty. 
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Crazy Horse
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Yep. Looked it up and here it is:
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FL-NC
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I have owned several handguns and shotguns over the years that were LE turn-ins that had logos. I wonder- do agencies who have marked guns issue them to officers doing undercover work, or do those officers get different weapons? Seems to me that having a pistol with a logo from a LE agency could prove detrimental.
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Crazy Horse
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DK Firearms was selling LE 40 S&W M&P handguns. Didn't think the Brinks was a LEO. But I guess Security companies could be considered a form of Law Enforcement.
You still see revolvers advertised as police surplus even though most police had transitioned to semi-automatics 25 years ago. Any revolver being sold today as surplus has to be from a private security guard company. So someone selling Brinks semi pistols as LEO doesn't surprise me.
kBob
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When I worked for Wells Fargo's Pony Express non armored service (F150 Fords with a cover on back) the issue gun was a S&W M10HB in 1977. Our uniform was the old Blue Wells Fargo and included an Agent badge.....and they made DARN SURE everyone knew they were NOT LEOs. the public on the other hand in those non standardized uniform days often mistook us for City Cops. The revolvers at our station had no special markings.
When Wells Fargo legal decided that a condolence letter to a dead Agent's Family was cheaper than defending the use of those revolvers in 50 state courts they took away the revolvers and changed our uniform to include ditching the badge. instead of blue on blue uniforms it was now Khaki over Brown with a brown jacket, shirt and jacket having patches for ID......so we no longer got mistaken for City Cops.... but County Deputies instead!
I did wear my Badge one day after being dissarmed and browned down. One town I served was having Pioneer Days starting on a Friday and the Bank was making a big deal of its employees dressing all 1880's. That old TV show "Tales of Wells Fargo" was in reruns on a local TV station so My buds loaned me Cowboy boots a black cowboy hat, a left handed rig with a Copy of a SAA and loaded cartridge loops all in .45 Colt and a set of saddle bags. I stuck my Wells Fargo Badge on and looked like Dale Roberts' third cousin twice removed. It was a big hit with everyone but the bank President who standing there with a green visor cap and gartered sleeves told me I looked silly and was concerned that by not being in uniform I might tempt someone to attack me and take my oh so valuable federal bank records. I guess he thought the SAA was a toy....
Company policy was after the uniform change was no guns to the point that it was a firing offense. Soon after this change two county Sheriffs and a City Chief informed me I was subject to arrest for NOT having a gun as it frightened them that I had keys to their banks and no way to defend those keys. I informed the station master and he said they could not make that stick. But I had seen their jails and met them and their officers so I started carrying a lunch box to work. The Lunch box had a Charter Undercover in a clip on holster that went on my belt at my first stop every morning and came off after my last stop that evening and went back in the lunch pail. State law mandated "plain lead bullets' for private security so I carried 158 SWC or 148 DEWC depending on what I had on hand and shot pretty much weekly concentrating on 7 meters and in but doing some shooting to 50 meters from covered positions like kneeling next to an open vehicle door or roll over prone around a tire. I occassionally fired from inside the car but even with hearing protection that was rough. Never hit the car, though one paper target showed a hole very close to the edge of a rear view mirror... but a hit! I do NOT recommend shooting from inside a vehicle with normal ammo. I have also done it with Speer plastic training rounds and Wax bullet loads and those seem less likely to damage the vehicle irrepairibly or bounce back and actually hurt you or your eye protection
I lost the job as the Station Master kept threating to fire me for not making the unrealistic delivery times he set and as a result "I lost my licence and now I can't drive" for 60 days and class attendence successfull. Corporate said "that guy aint driving our trucks" and once my 60 days was up I got a better paying job (well except that over time) that no one was tempted to shoot supposedly unarmed me over a brief case with nothing worth having in it.
Ah, youth.
BTW though I love a normal plain Jane M10 pencil barrel I never warmed up to the HBs. My understanding is someone did some research and folks that don't practice seem to do somewhat better with the HB than the pencil barrel. You guys know my answer to that....shoot more often.
I suppose the HB makes a better club after they miss six times as well....
-kBob
When Wells Fargo legal decided that a condolence letter to a dead Agent's Family was cheaper than defending the use of those revolvers in 50 state courts they took away the revolvers and changed our uniform to include ditching the badge. instead of blue on blue uniforms it was now Khaki over Brown with a brown jacket, shirt and jacket having patches for ID......so we no longer got mistaken for City Cops.... but County Deputies instead!
I did wear my Badge one day after being dissarmed and browned down. One town I served was having Pioneer Days starting on a Friday and the Bank was making a big deal of its employees dressing all 1880's. That old TV show "Tales of Wells Fargo" was in reruns on a local TV station so My buds loaned me Cowboy boots a black cowboy hat, a left handed rig with a Copy of a SAA and loaded cartridge loops all in .45 Colt and a set of saddle bags. I stuck my Wells Fargo Badge on and looked like Dale Roberts' third cousin twice removed. It was a big hit with everyone but the bank President who standing there with a green visor cap and gartered sleeves told me I looked silly and was concerned that by not being in uniform I might tempt someone to attack me and take my oh so valuable federal bank records. I guess he thought the SAA was a toy....
Company policy was after the uniform change was no guns to the point that it was a firing offense. Soon after this change two county Sheriffs and a City Chief informed me I was subject to arrest for NOT having a gun as it frightened them that I had keys to their banks and no way to defend those keys. I informed the station master and he said they could not make that stick. But I had seen their jails and met them and their officers so I started carrying a lunch box to work. The Lunch box had a Charter Undercover in a clip on holster that went on my belt at my first stop every morning and came off after my last stop that evening and went back in the lunch pail. State law mandated "plain lead bullets' for private security so I carried 158 SWC or 148 DEWC depending on what I had on hand and shot pretty much weekly concentrating on 7 meters and in but doing some shooting to 50 meters from covered positions like kneeling next to an open vehicle door or roll over prone around a tire. I occassionally fired from inside the car but even with hearing protection that was rough. Never hit the car, though one paper target showed a hole very close to the edge of a rear view mirror... but a hit! I do NOT recommend shooting from inside a vehicle with normal ammo. I have also done it with Speer plastic training rounds and Wax bullet loads and those seem less likely to damage the vehicle irrepairibly or bounce back and actually hurt you or your eye protection
I lost the job as the Station Master kept threating to fire me for not making the unrealistic delivery times he set and as a result "I lost my licence and now I can't drive" for 60 days and class attendence successfull. Corporate said "that guy aint driving our trucks" and once my 60 days was up I got a better paying job (well except that over time) that no one was tempted to shoot supposedly unarmed me over a brief case with nothing worth having in it.
Ah, youth.
BTW though I love a normal plain Jane M10 pencil barrel I never warmed up to the HBs. My understanding is someone did some research and folks that don't practice seem to do somewhat better with the HB than the pencil barrel. You guys know my answer to that....shoot more often.
I suppose the HB makes a better club after they miss six times as well....
-kBob
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