LCP is larger than I'd thought.

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I'd only seen 'em in the shops, not really messed with 'em much. Buddy came down from Waco for a goose hunt and he has a new LCP. I've been interested in getting one, or a new Taurus TCP, and as we were lookin' it over and chatting, I went and got my old Grendel to compare to it for size. Now, I don't carry or shoot this Grendel a lot. It is a P12, 11 shot double stack magazines, DAO, similar to the P11. It's a blow back. It has off hand paper plate at 25 yards accuracy and is 100 percent reliable and I have carried it off and on over the years when I wanted to be real discrete and dress required. It's not one of my faves, but it has filled the niche.

Well, laying the LCP over the top of the Grendel, I was amazed. Just lookin' at one and going and looking at the other, the LCP would seem to be a lot smaller. BUT, it's the exact same length and height. The only difference is, the Grendel being a double stack, it's 1" wide, considerably wider than the LCP. But, you have 12 rounds as the trade off. It's a few ounces heavier at 12 ounces unloaded, not exactly a cinder block in the pocket by any means.

The Grendel's trigger is pretty sucky, but I've adapted and shoot it okay. I do like the wider grip in my hands, much more comfy and, though I haven't shot the LCP, the Grendel's recoil is quite mild. I'd THINK it might be a bit easier on the hand being wider in the palm of the hand. I also prefer its heal clip mag release for a pure pocket gun, near impossible to release the mag accidentally even by sitting on it in a back pocket.

I'm now thinkin' maybe I don't really NEED one of the new gen .380s. I don't know, I'm still tempted, but there might be something else I'd feel better spending 300 bucks on. I really don't have any wants right now, just sayin'. I'd THOUGHT I wanted a new .380, but......... :banghead:
 
Yeah, the Grendel was way ahead of its time. When it first came out it was in a class by itself. Lighter than the AMT BackUp and safe to carry with one in the chamber. Another one I wish I'd kept.
 
the thickness you mentioned makes a huge difference in the pocket. That is pretty much why I bought an LCP instead of a Kahr PM9....well that and the added 5 ounces. It made a huge difference in my pocket at least.
 
Yeah, the gun is thicker, but I haven't worn spandex since the disco days. LOL I'm still waffling on whether to get an LCP or TCP. I was just shocked that they weren't any shorter compared to the Grendel. I knew they were skinny. 12 rounds capacity is a pretty good trade off, though, in my mind, for a little thicker gun, especially in a marginal caliber like .380, I mean, if you can hide it.
 
MachIVshooter said:
MC:

Check out the Diamondback .380. Same size and weight as the P3AT, LCP, but with better ergonomics. They only sell for about $50 more.
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It's thinner than the LCP, which is amazing.

However, the company is fairly new and as with any new start up, the question is will they stay in business?

I wouldn't want to be left holding a gun with no parts or service if they don't make it.
 
It's thinner than the LCP, which is amazing.

However, the company is fairly new and as with any new start up, the question is will they stay in business?

I wouldn't want to be left holding a gun with no parts or service if they don't make it.
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My thoughts too, I held one just a week ago but passed on it to wait until the bugs get worked out. It really felt good in the hand.
 
Re: the diamondback

is it reliable? I've not been able to find any reports of failures in the LCP other than a few rounds ftf during the break-in process. If I could be convinced that the db was equally reliable then I'd get one over the LCP.
 
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