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Least favorite to clean?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by real_name, Oct 22, 2006.

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  1. real_name

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    I'm cleaning my Walther P22 and it just hit me that I cleaned all the other guns as soon as I got home from the range, and now 24 hours later I'm bothering with the P22.
    I'm not sure what it is, the fixed barrel or the smaller dimensions ( I have big hands), or the way the spring goes back together but every time I use this gun I defer cleaning it.

    Maybe I'll do a torture test and see how many months it will go without cleaning.
     
  2. Cheeseybacon

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    I've only ever had to deal with my Colt and Beretta, and I definately dislike cleaning my Colt more. It breaks down and reassembles just as easily as my Beretta, but it seems to get dirtier in more places and on more parts than the Beretta, which makes cleaning a bit more annoying. It's a lot more fun to shoot though, so I think I'll keep it around. :p
     
  3. RNB65

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    Springer 1911. It may have been ahead of it's time a century ago, but compared to today's designs it's a pain to field strip and put back together.
     
  4. KINGMAX

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    DITTO on the Walther P22 real name

    I like shooting that little P22, but it is a booger to clean and 'put-back-together'. That little 'rod and spring deal' is some sutff to deal with. :banghead:
     
  5. real_name

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    Yes, I make things a bit easier by wiping the plastic rod with oil or a bit of grease before insertion. Otherwise I find it drags on it's way out. The mag well is a bit small for my wire brush too.

    Anyone have problems ever with a HK P2000SK or a Sig P239?
    Those are on my list for next purchase and I don't want to get a gun with a tiresome takedown.
     
  6. steveracer

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    Buckmark

    I sold it because it was such a pain in the butt to clean. Very accurate, but I stopped shooting it becuase I didn't have an hour to clean the darn thing.
     
  7. Ala Dan

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  8. Black Majik

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    Marvel 1911 .22 conversion kit. Even if it's just one slide, that damn guide rod screws into the barrel lug with the recoil spring is just one major PITA.

    I enjoy cleaning my 1911s, the easier "modern" take down guns are easy. Just that damn Marvel kit. I dread cleaning that thing.
     
  9. Stevie-Ray

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    I will say the Ruger .22s are a pain, but they don't seem to bother me anymore. What does, is a 1911 with a full-length guide rod. My Kimber Ultra CDP and my Custom Mark IV are the worst. To me these are a pain in the butt, due to the Kimbers spring and the Mark's comp. This just adds to the joy.:rolleyes:

    My all-time worst is not an auto, but my Ruger Redhawk. Though it didn't have to be taken apart, it was a major pain because it was so filthy all the time, and extra care was needed to remove "blackface" with the lead-free cloth. Don't shoot it much anymore, though.

    Best is a tie between my Taurus PT-22 which is the easiest to take apart, and my Colt Delta Elite that doesn't seem to get dirty.:scrutiny: I think AA-7 has to be the cleanest burning powder, ever!
     
  10. 270Win

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    I'm lucky, in that I've never encountered a gun I hated to clean...

    But from what I've heard from friends, the Buckmark is a nightmare and a half.
     
  11. cdsdss

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    Taking apart and reassembling my Walther PPK/s was one of the most frustrating handgun experiences I've ever had. Everytime I got it done it was more a matter of luck than skill.
     
  12. Ohen Cepel

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    I'm with Stevie-Ray; 1911's with a full length rod. I'm selling one just becuase it's such a pain!
    I can strip several Glocks or Beretta's in the time it takes me to get one 1911 apart. I just don't see it.
     
  13. Mulliga

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    My Marlin .22 semiauto rifle was sort of a pain to clean.

    In terms of handguns, though, I disliked cleaning my Star BM and my Kel-Tec P3AT. Taking apart a 1911 is easy, putting it back together (without getting the dreaded idiot mark) can be a problem. :neener:
     
  14. makarovnik

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    Ruger MKII and 22/45 without a doubt. A while back a company was selling a kit to make takedown and assembly easier. I wonder if it's still available. Next biggest pain to clean is any Hi-Point.
     
  15. 10-Ring

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    I'm not really a fan of cleaning P7's or wheelguns....
     
  16. squekie

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    Ala Dan ,Ruger MK-II I agree with you , the kid next door cleans mine when we shoot it.
    Thats how BAD I hate to clean mine. And I have Glocks,Kimbers, Turus, Remmington,Brownings , Bunch of Berettas, Bushmasters , and AK's
    But the Ruger MK- II gets my vote..
     
  17. david_the_greek

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    another vote for the ruger mk II. my word I disliked (no longer own) cleaning that darn thing. Of pistols I currently own i'll have to say my kimber custom TLE II. thats only because my cz 75 PCR is so easy to strip apart.
     
  18. longeyes

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    Just change the guide rod and plug to G.I. Life will go more easily, trust me.

    My pistols are 1911s, Glocks, and Maks. Of those, obviously, the 1911s are the toughest, but they're still manageable.

    To be honest, I find cleaning revolvers more annoying.
     
  19. favorite .22

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    my norinco t-54 gets my vote it gets dirty in places that are hell to clean and putting it back together can be dangerous if you let go of the recoil spring "everybody duck"!:neener:
     
  20. thumper723

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    What takes so long with these FLGRs in 1911s?

    Mine is a tad sharper on the finger, but comes apart w/o tools just like a USGI one..

    http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_guide_rods_1_pc.asp

    They say you need a bushing wrench, but I have never used one..
     
  21. cedjunior

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    Anything with polygona rifling. Even shooting FMJ's, its a pain getting the lead streaks out.
     
  22. AirForceShooter

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    You're supposed to clean a .22?

    AFS
     
  23. wally

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    Eventually you'll have to, as gunk will build up enough to cause failures.

    I hose down my Ruger's and Buckmark with break parts cleaner to postpone the day, but eventually even this can't flush out the gunk. My Rugers are about there now, got a fair number of shots where the bolt/slide failed to pick up the next round from the mag, about half wre stovepipes. Happened with two brands of ammo, so they are telling me its tie to tear it down :(

    I dislike cleaning all guns. Only my carry guns get cleaned after every outing, the rest I wipe down and put them back in the safe, only cleaning when I start having problems that brake parts cleaner don't fix :)

    --wally.
     
  24. wally

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    1911 full length guide rods

    If the gun is reliable, don't sell it as you'll regret it eventually for sure. It is easy enough to get a standard plug, plunger and recoil spring and deep six the guid rod setup.

    There are three basic types of full length guide rods. IMHO worst are the two piece because they can shoot loose and lock up the gun, and I hate anything that needs a hex wrench.

    Next worse are the ones that have a hole in them where you have to pull the slide back and insert a bent paper clip or other tool into the hole to capture the spring and plug.

    The ones that are just short enough to let the bushing turn aren't too much different than the standard setup, but a bushing wrench does help alot, I use a flat blade screwdriver to push the plug down so I can rotate the bushing, works about as good as a bushing wrench and is a lot easier to find :)

    You generally can't just grind off enough of one of the other two styles to let the bushing turn because the inside hole of the plug needs to be "reverse counter-sunk" so the rod can't get outside the thru hole when the slide is fully forward.

    --wally.
     
  25. Heavy Metal Hero

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    Llama .45 (1911 model).

    Horrible to take apart.
     
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