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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by shoot870p, Mar 19, 2005.

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  1. shoot870p

    shoot870p Member

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    Do Lee .45 acp dies roll crimp or taper crimp?
     
  2. Black Snowman

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    Taper crimp. In fact, all brands of .45 ACP dies should ship with a taper crimp die.
     
  3. P95Carry

    P95Carry Moderator Emeritus

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    In fact - any rimless cartridge should only be given a taper crimp - tho with rifle that may be more like a four point ''cinch''!!! The prerequisite is that the case mouth can headspace with straight case pistol ammo - in rifle the bottleneck will be the ref point.

    Roll crimps are for most part only for long parallel cases, usually for revo's and rimmed ... like 38/357, .44, .45 Colt etc.
     
  4. JoeHatley

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    My Lee 3 die set is a combination of both, depending on how you adjust them.

    Joe
     
  5. The Bushmaster

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    How you say?? My Lee 3 die set is taper crimp only If I set it too much it looks just like a bad LFC die. How old are your .45 ACP dies. Mine were purchased in 1990... :(
     
  6. BluesBear

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    If that were true then neither crimp would be satisfactory.

    The Lee bullet seating die will remove the flare from the case mouth but will only perform either a taper crimp or a roll crimp. Straightening the mouth flare is not the same as crimping.
     
  7. JoeHatley

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    From the Lee site:

    Joe
     
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    Slight is right.
    I have a set of Lee Carbide Dies in .45 sitting on my desk this very moment that I am looking to dispose of becaue they won't crimp worth a damn. I think this must be what those idiots at A-MERC use to almost crimp their ammo. :barf:


    I'll probably get rid of my .38/.357 Lee dies also and be done with them.
    After all of these years I should have know better than to buy just because it's cheap.
    I'll stick to my Redding crimp dies.
     
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  9. Werewolf

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    Everything I've ever read about .45ACP crimp says take it down to .470. My LEE FCD will go to .472 - period - that's the most crimp I can ever get regardless of the brass or bullet used.

    But you know what .472 works - for me at least. I've never gotten any set back and I function check my carry gun at least once a week and often twice. The bullet that comes out of the chamber gets to be the top round in the mag so it goes back into the chamber. Since I only fire my carry gun (Sig P220) about once a month that's a minimum of 4 and sometimes 8 chamberings on that top round. The OAL stays at 1.2 right where it was when it was first reloaded.

    That once a month firing is at least 50 rounds and usually 100 or more. I get good grouping and accuracy so for me at least that .472 light crimp works. YMMV...
     
  10. shoot870p

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    "fcd" is factory crimp die?
    thanks
    Lee
     
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    Oh Drat...I guess I'm in trouble again. All I have is Lee dies and they don't give me any trouble at all. Except I am a little unhappy with the .38 Special resizer which I plan to solve here soon. Waiting for tax return. I have been using the same Lee dies for about 20 years. They have never given me any reason to replace them with new ones or a different manufacturer. My press is a Lee turret.
     
  12. P95Carry

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    Don't feel left out Bushmaster!! I have all Lee - well, just a few other makes of dies here and there to be honest - but my Lee set-up has done now for some quarter century and more and covers many, many calibers too.

    I added a second turret, plus Challenger single station and also a cheapo single station - which is used just for priming and non-stress operations. I also invested in extra turrets so as to leave die sets all set up and ready to go for quick change-overs. There is no die I can think of that has let me down - and I have added many FCD's in more recent years too.
     
  13. The Bushmaster

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    Yup. Same here. I think I can solve the .38 crisiss with a Lee FCD also. If not I may do some research and find a die that will taper the .38 Special just a little. Not unlike the .357 die. All of my dies are set up on individual turret adaptors. Change caliber...Change adaptor. Of course you already know this.
     
  14. trickyasafox

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    are lee FCD universal or caliber specific, i've never heard of em before this conversation. . .
     
  15. P95Carry

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    FCD's are cal specific - tho of course with examples like .45 LC - they will serve for .454 Casull - etc. Similarly as you'd expect .38/.357.

    Just a case of adjusting - to suit case length.
     
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    P95carry is right. More information to clarify...It takes a Lee FCD to do .30-30 and another to do .30-06. And so on......Some will do more then one cartridge caliber.
     
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    You wanna get rid of Lee 45 and 357/38 dies....hmmm all my Lee dies work quite well, and just got in my new Lee 7.62x54R set yesterday. Yes, the Lee dies in 9mm will give a roll crimp if adjusted incorrectly - found that out the hard way with my first ever loads - oops.
    My brother just got a 1911 45ACP, and was wondering if I could get dies for my press..... :) Got a price in mind for them? Still in good shape?
     
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